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Old 07-03-2005, 11:40 AM
meleader2 meleader2 is offline
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Default I cannot beat PP/Affiliates

I don't know why everyone says that PP is as loose as a goose. I understand that it is all about table selection. I am not a fool. You log on, sit on the wait list, hope the fish doesn't leave/get busted b4 ur 5th spot opens, and start plugging and chugging away. It just doesn't seem to be working for me, and that's on 5k hands (i'm 30k hands on UB)

Now, on UB, I slaughter the games. I don't even try really, my bb/100 is much higher, and 50nl/100nl is looser then the 25nl.

The real reason for this post is table numbers: UB max is 3. PP is 4. I have a 2nd SN on UB, and was going to transfer a sig. amount of $ to that and try 6 tabling, and just say screw it altogether with PP/Affiliates. The real question is, can UB tell my IP number (i'm off of a router, 2nd 3 tabling will be done on a laptop) and disable/cancel my account? I won't be sitting with both SN's at the same table obviously.

Thoughts?

Edit: I know some players play as many as 5/6 with the same SN. I emailed UB asking for more tables, the response was "it is reserved for the poker props" I know some of these guys are NOT props (Mahatma being one of them). Hello Kitty might be, but chitcardking is not.
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Old 07-03-2005, 12:10 PM
BZ_Zorro BZ_Zorro is offline
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Default Re: I cannot beat PP/Affiliates

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I don't know why everyone says that PP is as loose as a goose.

[/ QUOTE ] What do your PT table stats say? (ave pot, ave VPIP, etc).

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The real reason for this post is table numbers: UB max is 3. PP is 4.

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QED?

P.S. I'm genuinely curious, not trying to be an ass [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 07-03-2005, 12:15 PM
meleader2 meleader2 is offline
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Default Re: I cannot beat PP/Affiliates

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I don't know why everyone says that PP is as loose as a goose.

[/ QUOTE ] What do your PT table stats say? (ave pot, ave VPIP, etc).

[ QUOTE ]
The real reason for this post is table numbers: UB max is 3. PP is 4.

[/ QUOTE ]
QED?

P.S. I'm genuinely curious, not trying to be an ass [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]



the vp$ip for the tables are genuinely good (25-40).

i don't know what QED means.

this post's purpose isn't trying to see if PP is really loose or not, just for the bottom paragraph of the post. i don't know if u use UB or not?
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Old 07-03-2005, 12:39 PM
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Default Re: I cannot beat PP/Affiliates

try playing on stars
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Old 07-03-2005, 12:44 PM
Rudbaeck Rudbaeck is offline
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"Q. E. D. is an abbreviation of the Latin phrase "quod erat demonstrandum" (literally, "that which was to be demonstrated"). This is a translation of the Greek oper edei deixai which was used by many early mathematicians including Euclid and Archimedes. Q.E.D. may be written at the end of mathematical proofs to show that the result required for the proof to be complete has been obtained. It is not seen as frequently now as in earlier centuries."

en.wikipedia.org is your friend.

That said I find the UB and Party NL games to be pretty comparable.

Sample size police statement: 5k hands isn't even a fart in space.
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Old 07-03-2005, 01:08 PM
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Default Re: I cannot beat PP/Affiliates

data that i have on you makes me think you're too tight. when you enter a pot it's becomes too obvious what you're holding.
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Old 07-03-2005, 01:21 PM
BZ_Zorro BZ_Zorro is offline
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Default Re: I cannot beat PP/Affiliates

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i don't know if u use UB or not?

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I've played ~2K hands there (not sure exactly), mostly 100 full. Closed my account as there weren't as many players and it seemed pretty much the same as Party $100.

Not sure about the accounts thing. Cash out often if you're going to do it I think.
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Old 07-03-2005, 01:28 PM
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Default Re: I cannot beat PP/Affiliates

i dont know what you've been observing, but that UB tables are much tigher and have a ton less action than the party tables of similair stakes. seems your average partypot is about 2X the size of your average UB pot at the same level for SSNL

PP is a much bigger fishpond.
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Old 07-03-2005, 01:30 PM
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Default Re: I cannot beat PP/Affiliates

I've played quite a bit of both UB and Party and I think Party is softer my a huge margin. Of course, the UB I've played has usually been during the day (not peak hours) so its not a completely fair comparison.

I suspect you have just been running bad on Party.
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Old 07-03-2005, 04:25 PM
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Default Re: I cannot beat PP/Affiliates

thanks for all ur input guys!
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