A post about the first two cards - Page 5

istewart · #41 06-26-2005, 12:10 AM

This is a great point.

closer2313 · #42 06-26-2005, 12:47 AM

I just wanted to comment on what a great thread this is. I didn't realize how big of a mistake I was making by open limping and not open raising with some decent hands in lp.

Thanks alot!

sirdeej2 · #43 06-26-2005, 01:46 AM

Thanks Greg. Now I can actually come out in the black when i try to clear my bonuses.

DRD66 · #44 06-26-2005, 05:28 AM

OK, this hand is more about post-flop play than the OP's subject, but it occured while I was reading this thread and is soooooo close to the above question I couldn't resist posting it. Besides, this thread should be bumped daily for at least the next week.

BB is well known to me, loose pf but folds all but TP+ on the flop. CO is fishy. Victim just sat down.

Ultimate Bet 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. MP3 :#A500AF(victim)/ posts a blind of $0.25.
Hero calls, 4 folds, MP3 :#A500AF(victim)/ (poster) checks, CO calls, 2 folds, BB checks.

Flop: (4.40 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, victim calls, CO folds, BB folds.

Turn: (3.20 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, victim calls.

River: (5.20 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, victim folds.

Final Pot: 6.20 BB

Granted, it wasn't checked to me, but knowing the other 2 players it might as well have been. I took a calculated risk, but I think it still illustrates pryor15's point.

God, I love this forum.

therockofgibraltar · #45 06-26-2005, 10:21 AM

great thread! thanks!! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

afk · #46 06-26-2005, 10:31 AM

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Auto-fold business

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Good call man. I used to do the exact same thing, and I still accidentally do it from time to time as well.

Greg J · #47 08-28-2005, 10:16 PM

Every now and then we are entitled to shameless bumps. This topic seems to be esp salient on the brd right now -- lots of preflop questions and screwage upage and such.

I would like to give Shillx some dap for making this useful comment in a recent thread:

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Always raise your post when it is folded around to you. Any two cards are worth a raise. And don't say something like "there are too many people to fold out to make it profitable" since you should be posting in the CO everytime (barring a really good table). If you posted in UTG+2 or something then no you should not raise 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] , but you never should have posted in that spot in the 1st place.

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Write that down if it is not already burned into yr brain.

SavageMiser · #48 08-28-2005, 11:59 PM

This is a fantastic piece of advice. I still have to slap myself whenever I auto-fold on the button or in the CO. Auto actions are evil.

DavidC · #49 08-29-2005, 01:01 AM

I'd like to add here that even at a 45% average vpip table, sometimes it will be folded to the bb.

Not often, but sometimes.

--Dave.

Edit: The reason I say this is that I always see a ton of replies "get off that table" if someone posts a blind stealing question. They might be telling him to get off a table with 95% vpip. It also might be a tight table with a really great lag to your direct right or something.

Also, I wouldn't deserve my title if I didn't note that you can have more than 5 decisions post-flop. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

DavidC · #50 08-29-2005, 01:22 AM

Could someone post up a hand where they re-raise with 33?
That's pretty ballsy stuff.