Remind me how to win the most here...

[SomethingClever]

I've been playing 6-max for so long, I forgot how to play full ring. I think I won about the minimum here.

Live 3/6 at Spirit Mountain. Plays about the same as the .02/.04 on Stars.

I get A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] UTG and limp. Eleventy billion people limp behind me.

Flop:

x [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] x [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] x [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], with the biggest x = 10

SB checks, BB checks, I bet, 2 callers, cute girl in middle position raises, folded back to me.

I call?

2 callers also both call.

Turn: x [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

I now bet out. Both callers fold, cute girl calls.

River: x offsuit.

bet, call.

I fxxed this one up, yes?

[silkyslim]

Your avatar gives me nightmares, but is also oddly relaxing to watch. where is it from? On the hand, what did you want to do? Raise the flop, c/r the turn? Both plays face your dead money callers with 2 cold? are you confident they will call anyway with the 4-flush there?

[topspin]

World's easiest flop 3-bet. No one's going to believe you flopped the nut flush anyhow, and you'll get a lot of action from big single [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]s if a 4th diamond falls.

The way you played it with the stop-and-go when the 4th diamond falls just kills your action since it really looks like you hit your draw with a single big [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

By the way, your avatar is really disturbing dude [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[SomethingClever]

How do you guys feel about a flop checkraise or check/call depending on where the bet comes from?

The players were passive, but I didn't think it'd get checked around with 8 players in the pot.

[topspin]

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How do you guys feel about a flop checkraise or check/call depending on where the bet comes from?

The players were passive, but I didn't think it'd get checked around with 8 players in the pot.

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I like fastplaying a big hand like this for a couple of reasons:

1. Deception. When you get fancy and do things like check-raising, people tend to worry that you have a monster. When you lead out on this flop, your hand range is extremely wide, and almost no one's going to read you for a flopped nut flush.

2. With this flop, either you're going to get action or you won't. This depends entirely on what cards your opponent holds and much less on you getting tricky. If they've got no pair no diamond or bottom pair no diamond etc, nothing you do is going to induce them to call. If they've flopped two pair, a set, or have something like K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or even another flopped flush, this flop is going to get jammed. You might as well fastplay it and hope someone plays back at you.

About the only time I really like a check-raise is if someone on your immediate left raised preflop, and you can count on them to help you trap the field. Otherwise I say just keep firing and build the pot.

[car ramrod]

this is the best advice.

"how to win the most"
bet, and keep raising.

If you check this flop and lp bets, then you check raise and face everyone with 2 cold. If you bet, and a lp raises, then you can 3 bet and get more callers in the middle, as people don't like to fold especially after calling one bet. Sure its 2 to them again, but you'd be suprised how already calling 1 bets gets them to call 2 more.

[SomethingClever]

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If you check this flop and lp bets, then you check raise and face everyone with 2 cold

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I would have just called if an LP player bet.

I'm with you, though... can't really go too wrong just betting and raising the nuts at every opportunity.

[sexypanda]

I'd fold this UTG pf. Other than that I think you played it fine. I think a flop 3-bet or a turn check-raise will chase the dead money out of the pot. I don't think there's anything you can do here.

[topspin]

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I'd fold this UTG pf.

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I think you are seriously underestimating the looseness of live 3/6 [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Fadook]

If the game truly is as bad as .02/.04 at Stars, then the PF limp is fine. I agree with 3-betting the flop, you'll get calls.