Playing -EV in high stakes = +EV?

[AlexSem]

joe, people think they are playing correctly almost 100% of the time.

Does that make it so? no.


These forums sort of piss me off because unless one of the superstars of high stakes replies to a thread or starts it, the threads just don't go anywhere. It's a very shallow and retarded thing but that's how it is.

People talk of making these forums better, how about not replying with useless one liners? Leave that for OTT.

Yes back to what we were discussing, a reply that makes others wanna chip in would be great [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[bicyclekick]

Are you kidding alexsem? Joe gave you about as reasonable of a response as you're going to get with this kind of question and you're ripping him apart saying he's giving you one liners? He explained it to you.

Give me a break.

Go discuss with yourself or something.

[IndieMatty]

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joe, people think they are playing correctly almost 100% of the time.

Does that make it so? no.


These forums sort of piss me off because unless one of the superstars of high stakes replies to a thread or starts it, the threads just don't go anywhere. It's a very shallow and retarded thing but that's how it is.

People talk of making these forums better, how about not replying with useless one liners? Leave that for OTT.

Yes back to what we were discussing, a reply that makes others wanna chip in would be great [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Insert useless "what's OTT?" one liner here.

[jetsonsdogcanfly]

You're misunderstanding Joe's point, probably because his first sentence isn't exaclty correct. The point is that expectation is situational, so where a play might be -EV in one situation, it might very well be +EV in another. The fact that representing an Ace againts a preflop 3bettor is basically always -EV in small stakes does not mean that it is, by its very nature, a -EV play in all games always. In higher stakes this play may be situationally a +EV, good decision because you know your opponents actually know how to fold.

That highlights what you yourself said, that at higher limits, the rules change. As other responses have noted, you play straightforwardly in low limit games because the player base is huge and pretty homogenously predictable. There is little reason to mix up your play against these opponents. This is why, why when talking about lwo limit holdem, it is not so incorrect to make generalizations like saying a certain play is broadly -EV in low limit games .