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Old 11-25-2005, 04:00 PM
cleinen cleinen is offline
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Default 55 Bubble play

#Game No : 3089905387
***** Hand History for Game 3089905387 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:17695043 Level:9 Blinds(250/500) - Thursday, November 24, 21:07:38 EDT 2005
Table Table 67371 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: stevenlien ( $2358 )
Seat 3: thodown ( $2850 )
Seat 4: cleinen ( $2308 )
Seat 7: TBONE845 ( $2484 )
Trny:17695043 Level:9
Blinds(250/500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to cleinen [ Ac Jc ]
thodown raises [1600].
cleinen ??
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Old 11-25-2005, 04:10 PM
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Default Re: 55 Bubble play

This is really read dependant. But with almost no fold equity, I'm leaning toward a fold.
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Old 11-25-2005, 04:21 PM
tigerite tigerite is offline
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Default Re: 55 Bubble play

Fold.
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Old 11-25-2005, 04:43 PM
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Default Re: 55 Bubble play

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Fold.

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His range has to be massive, or he has to be folding alot. I don't think either of those are true.
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Old 11-25-2005, 05:04 PM
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Default Re: 55 Bubble play

Equal stacks all around, this is a fold for me. Hate to give it up, but you aren't willingly in the pot FIRST for most of your chips. Plus, the bet smells funny.

Happy chips! SlackaMcTriptofanned
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Old 11-26-2005, 10:24 AM
cleinen cleinen is offline
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Default Re: 55 Bubble play

Ok now what if he had just open pushed. Is it still or a fold or do you believe his range for pushing is wider that his raising range? I am having a tough time thinking this is an easy fold. I only have alittle over 4BB as does everyone else so i think raising and pushing ranges have to be huge so doesn't the calling range need to open up as well.
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Old 11-26-2005, 10:36 AM
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Default Re: 55 Bubble play

It's difficult to answer w/o knowing how the players got to their current chip counts; however, I don't think it's an "easy" fold because of the chipstack/blind ratio...You're gonna be faced with an allin decision on the BB anyway, so maybe AJsuited is as good as it's gonna get. Keep in mind that I have the benefit of a SlackerMcSuckPlayer opinion, so it's pretty meh to vote the other side [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 11-26-2005, 10:44 AM
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Default Re: 55 Bubble play

I think I agree with Skip here, which is disturbing in itself. This is so read dependent, not just on the bettor but the table in general. If it's been hyper aggr, my chips cant get in the middle quick enough. If it's been passive, I probably wait knowing I can get other spots to steal myself.

Keep the on-topic posts coming, skip. There's still time to win over some of the haters.
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