Two Plus Two Older Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Older Archives > General Gambling > Probability
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old 11-10-2005, 12:32 AM
DoomSlice DoomSlice is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 582
Default Re: MegaMillions Overlay?

I was under the impression that lotteries were designed so that there was always a negative EV.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 11-10-2005, 04:40 AM
chunk chunk is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 38
Default Re: MegaMillions Overlay?

this problem has been mentioned several times.

common concerns that are often neglected are the distribution of payments and taxes. Typically the actual breakeven EV number needs to be calculated as 25-35% of what the advertised jackpot amount is.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 11-10-2005, 10:29 AM
JinX11 JinX11 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Will poker for money.
Posts: 431
Default Re: MegaMillions Overlay?

[ QUOTE ]
this problem has been mentioned several times.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes; and there are a number of sites out there on how to analyze the lottery, this being one of them.

[ QUOTE ]
common concerns that are often neglected are the distribution of payments and taxes. Typically the actual breakeven EV number needs to be calculated as 25-35% of what the advertised jackpot amount is.

[/ QUOTE ]

Good point. I missed these, as well.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 11-10-2005, 10:16 PM
pzhon pzhon is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 66
Default Re: MegaMillions Overlay?

[ QUOTE ]

Yes; and there are a number of sites out there on how to analyze the lottery, this being one of them.


[/ QUOTE ]
That site makes the derivation far too complicated. You don't need to use the Poisson distribution and then sum an infinite series as that site does. You can calculate your expected share of the jackpot by computing the expected jackpot money paid out divided by the number of tickets sold.

The expected total jackpot money paid out is the jackpot times the probability at least one person wins. This is easy to compute if you assume the tickets are independent.

If you have one of N tickets which win independently with probability p, your expected share of the jackpot J is J*(1-(1-p)^N)/N.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 11-11-2005, 04:36 PM
MikeSmith MikeSmith is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 9
Default Re: MegaMillions Overlay?

I hope you guys are buying lotto tickets for better reasons than the EV, thats all im gonna say.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 11-27-2005, 04:34 AM
BigFishSmallCardRoom BigFishSmallCardRoom is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 2
Default Re: MegaMillions Overlay?

Thanks for all the input and calculations. I was the winner of the $313 million jackpot a few weeks ago.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:25 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.