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Old 12-11-2004, 12:09 AM
DanK DanK is offline
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Default Call or no?

OK so im playing no limit at RR (3-6 blind) as usual and this hand comes up. Loos aggro kid (400$) raises 20$ UTG, this means ANY pair, or two cards over a ten. Next awfull guy ( 400$) obv calls, next young japanese guy (270$) calls. This guy at least is reasonably tight and has an idea of what he is doing. He wont doesnt do anything obivously stupid or take big gambles. I(600$) make it 70 on the button with black AA. fist guy says "ok gamble" and call, next guy obv calls. Last guy thinks a while finally calls.

Flop is 7 9 Q r

first two guys check, japanese guy thinks about 1 1/2 sec and goes all in 200. and startes staring at the tv. Whats your action?
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Old 12-11-2004, 12:52 AM
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He probably has AQ, I'd call.

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Old 12-11-2004, 02:38 AM
TheWorstPlayer TheWorstPlayer is offline
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He probably has AQ, I'd call.

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Agreed. Probably wouldn't push QQ which is his only other likely holding, given your read. KK, I'm assuming he would have re-raised against the LAG kid? If not, add that to a possible holding that you beat and that he might push.
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Old 12-11-2004, 02:40 AM
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Default Re: Call or no?

Call. Try to suck the others into the pot.

Then bombs away on the turn, unless another Q comes.
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Old 12-11-2004, 05:05 AM
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Default Re: Call or no?

Tell me again the part about the button
preflop reraise. What was the real point
of a 1/2 pot raise here (appx)? AA doesn't
really want a volume pot when there is
sufficient money already there to pick up?
Or is this loose table all going to call
down a big raise that pot commits?
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Old 12-11-2004, 05:56 AM
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Default Re: Call or no?

In retrospect the preflop raise was a bit small, it probably should have been 90. I wanted to make sure the second player called, and was pretty sure one of the two others would fold at least, so I made it a bit smaller to suck them in. This way I would bet a 1 or 2 way pot, which is what I wanted.
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Old 12-11-2004, 10:08 AM
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Default Re: Call or no?

you only have to be good 1/3 the time, and he rarely plays a set this way
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Old 12-11-2004, 10:25 AM
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The odd thing about this is that if he did somehow have a set, it would be a terribly incompetent way of playing it. All he'd have to do would be to check it to you, wait for you to make any reasonable bet which would totally committ you to calling him, and on top he could hope that one of the other 2 calls as well. So, if his incompetence in playing his set forces you to believe he doesnt have one, I guess its a catch 22, but I think you have to call here unless you know him extremely well. A pot raise would have been to 100 btw, preflop, but raising even more is better if you think someone will call.
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Old 12-11-2004, 10:30 AM
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yea. even if he would play a set this way everytime, it is still be close to a call because he would also play several worse hands this way also. so considering that hero described him as decently smart, id say he doesnt play a set this way very often, and it is an easy call
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Old 12-11-2004, 11:16 AM
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Easy call, even if he might have the set. It is a smaller than pot size bet, you have an overpair, he likely has a hand that you can beat.

Preflop bet is too small. I like 100+
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