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Old 12-18-2005, 04:14 AM
mrh86 mrh86 is offline
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Default Two questionable hands from a session today

I'll start out by saying that I haven't played much poker in the past few months, but today I decided to mess around in a .25/.50 NLHE ring game on 'Stars. I admittedly had a very good run over a few hours today. I ended the day up over 140 BB. I have two hands here in which I'm not quite sure that I made the correct decisions in.

If there is one thing that PL Omaha has taught me, it's not to slowplay low boats to death in community card games. That being said, I was in a ring game with a bunch of hyper-aggressive players, and this hand came up. I figured that unless one of them had pocket 10s, they were drawing to 3-5 outs combined going into the river. I decided that the pot was large enough already, and that I could push the large stack out of the hand to further increase my odds. Would I have a higher EV by slowplaying my hand into the river, assuming that all of his chips would be going in, regardless of the river card, or by knocking him out, guaranteeing myself a sidepot, and limiting the last player to 2-3 outs?

PokerStars Game #3364994151: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) -
2005/12/18 - 02:14:23 (ET)
Table 'Deiphobus IV' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: KaiserSoSo ($119.55 in chips)
Seat 2: danlir ($17.20 in chips)
Seat 3: StoneyPoker ($61.20 in chips)
Seat 4: SickLord66 ($59.80 in chips)
Seat 5: mrh86 ($80.30 in chips)
Seat 6: TheVictim ($82.20 in chips)
Seat 7: SONICMAYA ($17.65 in chips)
Seat 8: JoeC344 ($47.25 in chips)
Seat 9: davester ($105.40 in chips)
mrh86: posts small blind $0.25
TheVictim: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mrh86 [2d 2c]
SONICMAYA: raises $0.50 to $1
JoeC344: folds
davester: folds
KaiserSoSo: calls $1
danlir: calls $1
StoneyPoker: folds
SickLord66: calls $1
mrh86: calls $0.75
TheVictim: folds
*** FLOP *** [Ts 2h 7d]
mrh86: checks
SONICMAYA: bets $3
KaiserSoSo: folds
danlir: folds
SickLord66: calls $3
mrh86: calls $3
*** TURN *** [Ts 2h 7d] [7c]
mrh86: checks
SONICMAYA: bets $3
SickLord66: raises $18 to $21
mrh86: raises $55.30 to $76.30 and is all-in
SONICMAYA: calls $10.65 and is all-in
SickLord66: folds
*** RIVER *** [Ts 2h 7d 7c] [7h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***

In white below:

<font color="white">mrh86: shows [2d 2c] (a full house, Sevens full of Deuces)
mrh86 collected $14.40 from side pot
SONICMAYA: shows [Qc Qs] (a full house, Sevens full of Queens)
SONICMAYA collected $52.75 from main pot
</font>


The villain in this next hand is slightly less donkish. This is the first hand that I was reraised preflop for less than the person's entire buy-in. Still, this guy was aggressive enough that I figured MHIG about 50% of the time. Comments?

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mrh86 [Th Tc]
trinket1279 leaves the table
mrh86: raises $1 to $1.50
TheVictim: folds
danlir joins the table at seat #2
SONICMAYA: folds
JoeC344: folds
davester: folds
KaiserSoSo: folds
StoneyPoker: raises $1 to $2.50
SickLord66: folds
mrh86: raises $4.50 to $7
StoneyPoker: calls $4.50
*** FLOP *** [9c As Ac]
StoneyPoker: checks
mrh86: bets $9
StoneyPoker: raises $15.85 to $24.85 and is all-in

I'd of definitely folded here if he check-raised me all-in with a stack larger than $35. For some reason, I thought my hand would be good here about half the time, and I had the pot odds to call.

mrh86: calls $15.85
*** TURN *** [9c As Ac] [Qc]
*** RIVER *** [9c As Ac Qc] [7d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***

In white below:

<font color="white">StoneyPoker: shows [Kh Ad] (three of a kind, Aces)
mrh86: shows [Th Tc] (two pair, Aces and Tens)
StoneyPoker collected $61.20 from pot
</font>
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Old 12-18-2005, 07:57 AM
boondockst boondockst is offline
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Default Re: Two questionable hands from a session today

Hand 1 is a bad beat post. There's a forum for that.

Hand 2

3-betting TT even against a donk is horrid. I'd love playing a $5 pot in position against a donk with TT at NL50. Why reraise? What do you beat when he check-raises you on the flop? K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ? So many people try getting more aggressive/tricky against donks. Just play straightforward and wait to have bigger edges in equity. This guy would probably put money in on a ragged board so wait for that one with TT.
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Old 12-18-2005, 08:00 AM
-Skeme- -Skeme- is offline
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Default Re: Two questionable hands from a session today

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Old 12-18-2005, 08:38 AM
Homesig Homesig is offline
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Default Re: Two questionable hands from a session today

Hand 1 is a bad beat post and don't post those again, however you completely misplayed it and should have been leading flop and turn. QQ isn't not folding here why would you slow play it. When someone check raises the turn is gives away their hand, 85% of time its a set or better. This is why we lead the flop and act as if we have a 10. If you lead the flop he will most likely reraise you and then you have an oppurtunity to slowplay or not.

Hand 2: why are you 3 betting with 1010 in 50nl?? You know ppl play naked aces all the time. Just call the preflop and lead flop if you want to see if your 10s are good. Fold if you encounter any resistance. 3 betting 1010 is not horrid at higher levels with position, however at 50nl we need to play straight foward poker and watch ppl give us their money.
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