Limp-Reaise followed by Limp-cap!

MadMat · #1 12-02-2005, 07:00 PM

A nice loose-passive table suddenly went mad! bit lost on the flop here, pretty sure theres at least one big PP out there, so overcard outs are probably no good, so I give myself 3 outs for the backdoor posibilities

BB is loose, bordeline maniac (80/20)
MP1 is new to table, so unknown

Cryptologic 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (9 handed) link

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 folds, UTG+2 checks, MP1 calls, 1 folds, MP3 calls, CO checks, Hero raises, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 3-bets, MP3 calls, CO calls, Hero calls, BB caps, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (28.00 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (7 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (17.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (7 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+2 folds, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, CO checks.

River: (17.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, UTG calls, MP1 raises, MP3 folds, CO 3-bets, Hero caps, UTG folds, MP1 calls, CO calls.

Final Pot: 30.50 BB.

Coolidge · #2 12-02-2005, 07:03 PM

Don't we have enough equity to bet the turn here?

#3 12-02-2005, 07:03 PM

does anyone bet this flop, figuring BB will raise and protect our overcards?

You should toss in some value bets on this turn--you have lots of outs to a straight or flush here, and will win a lot.

MrWookie47 · #4 12-02-2005, 07:04 PM

nh.

MadMat · #5 12-02-2005, 07:07 PM

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Don't we have enough equity to bet the turn here?

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I was expecting BB to bet again for me and didn't want to face them all with 2 cold.

Mat

Shillx · #6 12-02-2005, 07:08 PM

Go ahead and cap it up preflop.

Coolidge · #7 12-02-2005, 07:10 PM

ok, but wouldn't knocking out some players if he does raise you be ok too?

Aaron W. · #8 12-02-2005, 07:15 PM

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does anyone bet this flop, figuring BB will raise and protect our overcards?

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I don't. Even if villain raises, the likelihood of BB folding out anyone holding a hand that bothers us (AK/AQ) is incredibly remote. There's no way any one pair hands are folding in this gigantic pot.

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You should toss in some value bets on this turn--you have lots of outs to a straight or flush here, and will win a lot.

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With the aggressor on the flop acting immediately after hero, checking is better. If villain bets and a bunch of people call, then a check-raise would do well. If hero bets and villain raises, then hero is sad because everyone gets shut out of the pot.

MrWookie47 · #9 12-02-2005, 07:16 PM

Agreed. Our overcards are as clean as they're going to be.

bozlax · #10 12-02-2005, 07:24 PM

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If hero bets and villain raises, then hero is sad because everyone gets shut out of the pot.

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Do you really think that everybody bails out getting 10:1 or better?