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Old 10-28-2005, 09:05 PM
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Hawaiian Gardens the other night. I had AKo in the cutoff and raised behind one EP limper, and the SB and EP called. Flop was A T 5 rainbow. SB bet, EP called, I raised and only the SB called. Turn was another 5 and the SB bet. I only called. River was a 2 offsuit and the SB bet, and I went into the tank (well, about 10 seconds, which is the tank in limit). Should I have called?

The SB is a generally solid player, fairly tight, somewhat aggressive, and who bluffs occasionally -- what I consider a "typical" player. After the hand I conducted an instant verbal poll of the table and four respondants said basically "you have to call." No one said a fold was correct.

Were they right? Questionable laydowns on the river are not the way to go, but was this situation really that questionable?

Thoughts appreciated.

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Old 10-28-2005, 09:10 PM
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Default Re: 30-60 River Decision

i thought the question was going to be whether you should raise the river.
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Old 10-28-2005, 09:13 PM
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i think raising is better than folding, but calling is probably best, no you cant fold here, easy call
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Old 10-28-2005, 09:19 PM
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please go here
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Old 10-28-2005, 09:21 PM
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Nah man, stay here.

Raise the river.

Never fold.
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Old 10-28-2005, 09:47 PM
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i think raising is better than folding, but calling is probably best, no you cant fold here, easy call

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Why would I consider a raise here? You think he plays his hand like that with AQ or AJ? I don't.

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Old 10-28-2005, 09:52 PM
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Default Re: 30-60 River Decision

The fold is absurd online. It's not online, but I still think it would be a bad fold.
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Old 10-28-2005, 10:05 PM
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The fold is absurd online. It's not online, but I still think it would be a bad fold.

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Interesting. The difference between online and live, all rolled up in a nutshell.

As far as the live game situation, I was staring right at him, knew how he played (a typical player), and basically there was only one hand he could have, and it was better than mine. In my head I said there was a 90% chance he had that hand, so a fold was actually correct in this case.

In the actual hand, I said "I know I'm beat, you have thus and so." Then called. And lost.

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Old 10-28-2005, 10:15 PM
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Do not play 30/60 online. You will lose a lot of money.
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Old 10-28-2005, 11:19 PM
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What hand range do you put him on that makes calling the turn and folding the river correct?
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