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Old 06-09-2005, 02:00 PM
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Default I limp-reraise.

MP2 is slightly loose-aggressive (29/7/2.6). Will play good hands/draws strongly postflop but probably folds more easily than most semi-LAGs. Button is short-stacked; his raise puts him all-in.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $2.
Hero calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button raises all-in ($1.66), <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP2 calls.

Flop: (10.16 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>...

The rest of the hand is unimportant. Like? Dislike? Why/why not?

Rob
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Old 06-09-2005, 02:03 PM
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Default Re: I limp-reraise.

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MP2 is slightly loose-aggressive (29/7/2.6). Will play good hands/draws strongly postflop but probably folds more easily than most semi-LAGs. Button is short-stacked; his raise puts him all-in.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $2.
Hero calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button raises all-in ($1.66), <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP2 calls.

Flop: (10.16 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>...

The rest of the hand is unimportant. Like? Dislike? Why/why not?

Rob

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I like. That flop is a must-bet. Pre-flop, I like this line b/c there are a lot of flops you're going to like with your hand--inasmuch as you're betting he doesn't like it---and you've got more FE this way.
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Old 06-09-2005, 02:03 PM
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Default Re: I limp-reraise.

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MP2 is slightly loose-aggressive (29/7/2.6). Will play good hands/draws strongly postflop but probably folds more easily than most semi-LAGs. Button is short-stacked; his raise puts him all-in.

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I think the ability to get a fold on the flop/turn when he has live overcards is pretty important. I know I shouldn't think too hard about the PT numbers, but while he is loose, he's only raising 7% of his hands so it's not like you have a huge (any?) equity edge. Would you have done this if you didn't have the folding read on him?
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Old 06-09-2005, 02:04 PM
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Default Re: I limp-reraise.

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MP2 is slightly loose-aggressive (29/7/2.6). Will play good hands/draws strongly postflop but probably folds more easily than most semi-LAGs. Button is short-stacked; his raise puts him all-in.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $2.
Hero calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button raises all-in ($1.66), <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP2 calls.

Flop: (10.16 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>...

The rest of the hand is unimportant. Like? Dislike? Why/why not?

Rob

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I guess I don't like.

Once you know you were going to end up HU with him, and he's somewhat aggressive, I'd be more inclined to CR the flop (pretty much any flop) rather than LRR.

Granted - your line makes us seeing the turn much more unlikely, which would be a good thing.

Sarge[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
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Old 06-09-2005, 02:05 PM
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Default Re: I limp-reraise.

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MP2 is slightly loose-aggressive (29/7/2.6). Will play good hands/draws strongly postflop but probably folds more easily than most semi-LAGs. Button is short-stacked; his raise puts him all-in.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $2.
Hero calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button raises all-in ($1.66), <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP2 calls.

Flop: (10.16 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>...

The rest of the hand is unimportant. Like? Dislike? Why/why not?

Rob

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I sort of like it I guess because of all the LRR going on lately, and the button being dead. you're probably ahead of OTB as long as you both see the showdown and his positional advantage is nil.

I'm assuming you're autobetting the flop and firing again if MP smooth calls.
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Old 06-09-2005, 02:29 PM
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Default Re: I limp-reraise.

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I sort of like it I guess because of all the LRR going on lately

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There's a big difference between what Rob's doing here and the other recent LRR discussions. Rob wasn't intending on re-raising when he limped - he took advantage of an opportunity that presented itself.

If your read was that a LRR would gain FE against Villian - then I like. I just think you need to be careful as some will go to auto-call-down mode just to look you up - which may not be that bad if he's drawing to &lt;= 6 outs.
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Old 06-09-2005, 02:35 PM
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Default Re: I limp-reraise.

I agree.

This situation will come up very infrequently. The play wasn't as "tricky" as the ability to recognize the specific situation Rob was in.

NH

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Old 06-09-2005, 02:36 PM
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Default Re: I limp-reraise.

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I sort of like it I guess because of all the LRR going on lately

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There's a big difference between what Rob's doing here and the other recent LRR discussions. Rob wasn't intending on re-raising when he limped - he took advantage of an opportunity that presented itself.


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I know it's different, and it's obvious it wasn't his intention in the beginning. I think it's a good idea only because of the added fold equity due to the number of LRR going on with really big pairs, especially since his plan is to play it like one.
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Old 06-09-2005, 02:39 PM
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Default Re: I limp-reraise.

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I sort of like it I guess because of all the LRR going on lately

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There's a big difference between what Rob's doing here and the other recent LRR discussions. Rob wasn't intending on re-raising when he limped - he took advantage of an opportunity that presented itself.

If your read was that a LRR would gain FE against Villian - then I like. I just think you need to be careful as some will go to auto-call-down mode just to look you up - which may not be that bad if he's drawing to &lt;= 6 outs.

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Well said.
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Old 06-09-2005, 03:14 PM
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Default Re: I limp-reraise.

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I sort of like it I guess because of all the LRR going on lately

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There's a big difference between what Rob's doing here and the other recent LRR discussions. Rob wasn't intending on re-raising when he limped - he took advantage of an opportunity that presented itself.

If your read was that a LRR would gain FE against Villian - then I like. I just think you need to be careful as some will go to auto-call-down mode just to look you up - which may not be that bad if he's drawing to &lt;= 6 outs.

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Well said.

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That's the problem I have with this. You end up with a big pot on the flop. He is going to be getting odds to draw, and the sheer size of the pot will probably make him do so.

So the situation becomes you almost have to drill many of the turns. Granted the other side of the coin is this does not have to work that often.
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