Cardcounting+team play

Tony.T · #1 06-19-2005, 10:50 PM

In a casino with staff that has no clue about cardcounting and team play. 6 decks. 75 % penetration. DB on 9, 10 and 11. Allowed to split any pair plus DB after. Aces allowed to split how many times U want, as for any pair. Betting spread of 20 times the min bet. BJ pays 3to2 and 7+7+7 pays even money twice if the 21 wins. Mid shoe entry is allowed, it´s actually v e r y common since so many players play all the games at the same time. For all you counters out there, is this game possible to beat for serious money by a team of 3-4 players? If yes, how big should the bankroll be to start with?

Thanks in advance!!!

Photoc · #2 06-20-2005, 12:41 AM

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7+7+7 pays even money twice

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Isn't that 2:1?

Btw, standard shoe game allows double on any first 2 cards, not just 9,10,11.

other1 · #3 06-20-2005, 01:13 AM

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In a casino with staff that has no clue about cardcounting and team play.

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I doubt such a place exists. I'm not saying don't try whatever you are trying, but make sure you aren't lulled into false security.

cardcounter0 · #4 06-20-2005, 08:36 PM

Agree. With the limited double down rule, and so-so penetration, back counting tables would be the way to go.

It would be profitable, but start a habit of jumping in mid shoe with big bets, and you will find the casino becomes "un-clueless" real fast about counting.

Tony.T · #5 06-20-2005, 10:23 PM

If U make three sevens without splitting, that is having 21 with a combination of 7+7+7, U get paid even money before the dealer even bothers dealing cards for him/herself. If the dealer does not hit a BJ or 21 for a push the player gets paid even money again

I´m not talking about american BJ, so 9 10 11 is the only hands the player can double down

Tony.T · #6 06-20-2005, 10:24 PM

Yes, I will take that into consideration

Good point actually!

Tony.T · #7 06-20-2005, 10:28 PM

I´m not so sure about this since this is very common around here. But maybe you know better than me. Is there any place where I can find more info about the stats behind this specific game? Or where I can find persons who knows this better?

Thanks so far!!!

cardcounter0 · #8 06-21-2005, 07:10 PM

go to www.advantageplayer.com and pick up a copy of Blackjack Attack by Don Schlesinger.

Tells you everything you will need to know.

Tony.T · #9 06-22-2005, 02:24 PM

Cardcounter0, think many of the things you are writing on this forum is very good!

Thanks