7-handed, C/R middle-pair weak-kicker

#1 09-23-2005, 04:22 PM

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, 2 folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (7 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (7 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 bets, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, Hero raises, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds.

Turn: (6 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets...

Just started at the table, so no reads on the players.

Everyone checked to someone in relatively late position and he bet - doesn't mean much. The pot was fairly large, so I was given 9:1 on my call, which is more than the 8:1 I needed. I certainly wasn't folding!

There were many people to act after me, the pot was large, the bettor could have crap, and I can represent a much stronger hand. All of those together tell me I should be raising and making people face two-bets cold.

When it became heads-up on the turn, I kept up with the aggression. If he raised me here, I'd fold.

Anyone think I should have played this differently?

If he calls the turn, what's your line on the river when you don't improve? Bet/fold? Check/fold?

MrWookie47 · #2 09-23-2005, 04:24 PM

You'd have a case for the c/r if there wasn't a caller, but I think you're just paying too much for your draw in this case.

deception5 · #3 09-23-2005, 04:30 PM

Exactly what the wookie said.

hemstock · #4 09-23-2005, 04:35 PM

I think you'll have too many weak Aces call you down here. I would just call the flop to chase my draw. I don't mind the huge field. Strong draws like flushes and straights are not folding and you most likely dont have the best hand right now.
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#5 09-23-2005, 04:36 PM

Good point.

#6 09-23-2005, 06:55 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong...still learning odds...isn't it 8 to one to flop a set if you hold a pocket pair and 223 to 1 to hit your set or trips on the turn? If so, with that many in the pot, someone has an Ace and the odds are against. I fold.

#7 09-23-2005, 07:06 PM

You're thinking about completely different hands entirely. I was drawing to 5 outs, not 2 outs. With a 5-outter you're 8:1 against making it on the next card. With a 2-outter you're 22:1 against making it on the next card.