1/2 55 MP

baronzeus · #1 11-22-2005, 07:27 AM

MP1 is hangtwang. laggy dude pre,

villain 2 is JZScrilla. passive pre and post. Thoughts? bet the turn?

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP1 calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, CO calls, 1 fold, SB calls, 1 fold, MP1 calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets, CO calls, SB folds, MP1 calls.

Turn: (6 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks, CO checks.

River: (6 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets

tongni · #2 11-22-2005, 07:38 AM

JZscrilla is not passive. I would probably bet the turn in this hand.

baronzeus · #3 11-22-2005, 07:42 AM

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JZscrilla is not passive.

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havent played with him much so don't know too well. just my impression.

i think i should have bet teh turn too.

kurosh · #4 11-22-2005, 09:39 AM

PF is pretty bad unless you're going to get it HU with a weak player, which I doubt.

Victor · #5 11-22-2005, 02:54 PM

why no turn bet?

haakee · #6 11-22-2005, 03:08 PM

I think he had given up after getting called in two places on the drawless flop. I like his line. The river looks like a value bet trying to get a call from A-high.

Victor · #7 11-22-2005, 04:07 PM

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I think he had given up after getting called in two places on the drawless flop. I like his line. The river looks like a value bet trying to get a call from A-high.

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for some reason i think i remember a ray zee post or article where he advocates betting in this situation. i think his reasoning was that you dont want to give free cards to overs.

BradL · #8 11-22-2005, 04:50 PM

Id prefer to bet the turn if I was last to act, esp. with two opponents and a turn that could not improve a hand that doesnt already have me beat, unless opponents are overly tricky and will often raise on a bluff when the board pairs or on a turned 4-flush. With the cutoff behind I think its close but I still think a turn bet is better. With two opponents I think you are simply risking too much by allowing 4 possible overs to draw for free, especially if co is passive and a raise is unlikely.

-Brad