Did I play this hand right ?

[theredpill5]

This hand really pissed me off because I don't think I played it right. I should have realized with 5 people seeing the flop that I was probably on the draw.

Texas Hold'em $0.25-$0.50 NL (real money),


Seat 1: He Hate Dis
Seat 2: bobbie0503
Seat 3: Hero [ 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ]
Seat 5: franknyland
Seat 7: - Goose -
Seat 8: justliquor
Seat 9: Daddy66
Seat 10: suppe123
ANTES/BLINDS
bobbie0503 posts blind ($0.15), Hero posts blind ($0.25), Daddy66 posts blind ($0.25).

PRE-FLOP
franknyland calls $0.25, - Goose - calls $0.25, justliquor calls $0.25, Daddy66 bets $0.50, suppe123 folds, He Hate Dis calls $0.75, bobbie0503 folds, Hero calls $0.50, franknyland calls $0.50, - Goose - calls $0.50, justliquor calls $0.50.

FLOP [board cards 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
Hero checks, franknyland checks, - Goose - checks, justliquor checks, Daddy66 bets $3, He Hate Dis folds, Hero bets $10, franknyland folds, - Goose - folds, justliquor bets $23.75 and is all-in, Daddy66 bets $21.25 and is all-in, Hero calls $14.25.

TURN [board cards 4H,2H,3D, 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ]

RIVER [board cards 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ]

SHOWDOWN
Daddy66 shows [ 5S,AS ]
Hero shows [ 4D,4C ]
justliquor shows [ 5D,6C ]
justliquor wins $72.90, Daddy66 wins $1.

SUMMARY
Dealer: He Hate Dis
Pot: $76.90 | Rake: $3
He Hate Dis loses $0.75
bobbie0503 loses $0.15
Hero loses $25
franknyland loses $0.75
- Goose - loses $0.75
justliquor bets $24.50, collects $72.90, net $48.40
Daddy66 bets $25, collects $1, net $-24
suppe123 loses $0

[subzero]

I would've lead out on the flop, but that wouldn't have changed anything. At some point, you know you're going to raise the flop (your check-raise was fine). That left you with just $14.25. You got great pot odds on that final call (4:1). It turns out that you're only a 2:1 dog to the river. I think you played it fine.

[PinkSteel]

I would have bet out, rather than checkraising, but I don't think checkraising is bad, since the number of opponents virtually guarantees a bet somewhere. As long as the plan is to play it fast. Slowplaying would be the only true crime.

I also would have gotten stacked. You have top set. A5/65 are the only hands that beat you. Range of hands for villain's all-in definitely include 33 and 22, as well as an overpair (at this level). Even if you're behind, you have outs.

Easy call, just bad luck.

[BZ_Zorro]

I don't see anything wrong with this. Most of the time a two pair, overpair or overcards + flush is far more likely here than a miracle A5 or 56 flop.

Calling the all in is fine, you're easily getting the correct odds after someone else called. The only questionable part is the check on the flop on a dangerous board. But OOP and expecting a bet, it's not terrible either.

[theredpill5]

Yeah, it wasn't an automatic check. I saw how many people saw the flop so I checked it but I definitely hesitated and was about to bet. I'm just breaking even this week and frustrated.

Seems like everytime I win a pot, it is against one of those little short stacks who has $5 left then I lose a big pot like this one. The guy who called the raise with the 5 6 o doesn't realize that he loses more than $25 by simply calling that preflop raise because he probably has to call that raise 30 times before he hits something big enough to win a pot with.

[wtfsvi]

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The guy who called the raise with the 5 6 o doesn't realize that he loses more than $25 by simply calling that preflop raise because he probably has to call that raise 30 times before he hits something big enough to win a pot with.

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This depends a bit on stack sizes and original raisers hand range/postflop skills, but buttons preflop call is not horrible either way I think.

[swolfe]

lead the flop. if you see a raise and a reraise, then you decide that your hand is no good and muck.

as played, the call on the end is obligatory.

why would you check-raise this?

[theredpill5]

I shouldn't have been playing. I was tired. I thought " oh [censored]" when the flop hit. I knew I wasn't going to win it. I should have just hit the fold button.

[sourbeaver]

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I shouldn't have been playing. I was tired. I thought " oh [censored]" when the flop hit. I knew I wasn't going to win it. I should have just hit the fold button.

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Careful not to be results-oriented here.
Honestly, at 25NL I lose my stack here also.

Since the A5 guy is drawing stone cold dead, your equity is slightly above what you put in. Once you have raised, the double all-in call is automatic (14$ into 60$), repeat, automatic.

4c 4d 35.66
As 5s 0.00
6c 5d 53.38

Even if the A5 guy was drawing to the nut flush and straight flush with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], look at your equity (yes, he's taking much of 56's equity, but your full house outs are still intact, except to his single 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] out).

4c 4d 31.01
Ah 5h 30.01
6c 5d 33.22

You're definitely not folding top set for 14$ more in this spot. At that point, you've actually got great overlay on that remaining money.


EDIT : If only one villain went all-in on your raise, you still have to call, getting 14 into 37 (roughly 38%) with 34% equity if he holds 56. Now, factor in all those times where he has a lower set, an overpair, a flush draw or god knows what, and you've got a winning bet.

[fuzzbox]

I dont like a check raise on that dangerous flop - but calling the 2 all-ins is fin - you are about 2-1 to fill up and getting 2-1 odds.