Limping AA UTG, L1

[IdiotVig]

Assume, for the sake of argument, you're playing against a typical 55 lineup. How often do you limp AA UTG, with the blinds at 10/15?

And regardless of your answer, how necessary is a move like this at the 55s (Rephrased: if you were to never do this, how much equity would you be sacrificing? forget about the infrequency of the problem, for argument's sake)?

[tigerite]

Never.

Next?

[cleinen]

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Never

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What do you gain by limp re-raising that you don't by just raising

[TheNoodleMan]

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What do you gain by limp re-raising that you don't by just raising

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You can sometimes clear out some small pairs. If you raise to t60, there is a good chance that you'll get called by a mid pair, which will then give the implied odds for other small pairs to call.

If you limp and the same player that would have called with 88 now pops it to 60 and gets 2 callers behind him, now you have a chance to force some of them out out of the hand with a substantial re-rasie. The last thing you want is to get in a multiway pot with a couple smaller pairs looking to hit a set against you.

The caviat is that you have to learn when to let go of you aces post flop when you don't get anyone to raise preflop.

[Femto]

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The caviat is that you have to learn when to let go of you aces post flop when you don't get anyone to raise preflop.

[/ QUOTE ]very true.

another debate on a similar topic- summary: 45suited suggests the limp/reraise.

[DPCondit]

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What do you gain by limp re-raising that you don't by just raising

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You get extra money in the pot instead of a few measly blinds.

[ZBTHorton]

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Never

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[splashpot]

Never say never. Remember that hand history of that guy who won a tournament by pushing every hand? And some people were still limp/folding after he pushed like 20+ times in a row? If I was up against that guy, I'd limp UTG.

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Never say never. Remember that hand history of that guy who won a tournament by pushing every hand? And some people were still limp/folding after he pushed like 20+ times in a row? If I was up against that guy, I'd limp UTG.

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There are actually a lot of situations for a limp with a good hand, but it is highly table-specific, and probably an overused tactic in most amatures arsenal.

Just like bringing your queen out early in chess, limping with monsters UTG is considered a weak (if sometimes successful maneuver) employed by unsophisticated players trying to force their strength in a very blunt way. (Weak is Strong Strong is Weak. Oh you limped/re-raised me big... I wonder whatcha got...)

However, Grandmasters bring their queen out early in EXTREME cases where the situation warrants the move. Because the GM is perceptive enough to see the confluence of factors that makes an early queen the correct play, he able to employ it successfully.

Similarly in Poker, one could propose a lot of situations very close to this one where a limp would be more acceptable with AA/KK, but there are small changes (number of players, blind levels, table image thus far, a lot of agression behind, a read) that drastically change the decision.

Just some more thoughts on the matter...