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Old 12-18-2005, 08:49 AM
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Default Re: Do you think the pros are becoming obsolete?

I'm gonna ahead and assume you're specifically talking about "live pros" Live prose.

Anyways, there is no doubt that playing like 10k tourney hands a day with thorough analysis of play will build some very young and very tough tourney players. At the same time however, placing deep in their first few live tourneys requires a great amount of luck as well IMO.

No disrespect of course, as I know some of the young tourney guys like Giga and ZJ are very good players.
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Old 12-18-2005, 09:56 AM
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Default Re: Do you think the pros are becoming obsolete?

I think in 10-15 years all the pros will become replaced with internet pros. They are much better, have more experience because they have seen much more hands and tells are overrated anyways.
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Old 12-18-2005, 10:02 AM
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Default Re: Do you think the pros are becoming obsolete?

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I think in 10-15 years all the pros will become replaced with internet pros. They are much better, have more experience because they have seen much more hands and tells are overrated anyways.

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Ya, in 15 years new players will be the best. Just like it is in all sports (baseball, football, basketball, etc.) or competitions (chess, science, music, etc.) and has been with poker in the past. Internet has nothing to do with it.
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Old 12-21-2005, 02:22 AM
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Default Re: Do you think the pros are becoming obsolete?

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I'm gonna ahead and assume you're specifically talking about "live pros" Live prose.



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Old 12-18-2005, 04:48 PM
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Default Re: Do you think the pros are becoming obsolete?

With the number of final tables that Doyle Brunson made lately I would say they are still a force to be dealt with. However I think that at some point most pros will be hybrid players combining B&M play with Internet Play. But I do think that the poster who said that B&M pros have skills that can't be learned online is accurate.

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Old 12-18-2005, 06:31 PM
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Default Re: Do you think the pros are becoming obsolete?

Internet players, not playing in front of live players, have not learned the art of reading player tells and also reducing the number of tells that they give off. This is a major trait required at the high level live games and tourneys. Most pure internet players do not have this skill of reading live players becasue they have not had much experience doing that. Some pros are experts on tell reads.
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Old 12-18-2005, 07:06 PM
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No knock on Gigabet' skills whatsoever, but he had at least 3 major suckouts with all his chips on the line to double up and stay in that tourney. So it's not like he dominated his way into the final table, scaring the crap out of the pros in the process. Again, no knock on Gigabet, from what I understand he's a genius, just taking on the OPs original postulation
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Old 12-18-2005, 07:42 PM
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No knock on Gigabet' skills whatsoever, but he had at least 3 major suckouts with all his chips on the line to double up and stay in that tourney. So it's not like he dominated his way into the final table, scaring the crap out of the pros in the process. Again, no knock on Gigabet, from what I understand he's a genius, just taking on the OPs original postulation

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Doing this is pretty much required for anyone at all, pro's included to get that deep in a tournament.
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Old 12-18-2005, 08:21 PM
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Right. Which is what makes it so ludicrous to try to use Gigabet's showing in one tourney as some kind of evidence that the pros are becoming obsolete.
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Old 12-18-2005, 09:39 PM
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Right. Which is what makes it so ludicrous to try to use Gigabet's showing in one tourney as some kind of evidence that the pros are becoming obsolete.

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isn't it ludicrous because gigabet is a pro?
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