$215: With all the 17%+ ROI winners, where are the losers coming from?

[AA suited]

ZJ, Curtains, Dali, Giga and probably a few others are getting 15%.

Since there are winners, there has to be losers since poker is a zero sum game.

How big is the pool of players at the $215's since these players are 8+ tabling?

[FatalError]

95% of online poker players lose in the long run, do the math

[skipperbob]

In the "long run" we're all dead [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[introv]

People play above their level all the time. Just look at the number of entrants in the final event of the WSOP. A lot of the top players profit doesn't come from the permanent pool of $200 players (although there will undoubtedly be some).

So the pool is very small with room for a few sharks and plenty of fishies.

[Sponger15SB]

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poker is a zero sum game.

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Wrong.

[Benholio]

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95% of online poker players lose in the long run, do the math

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How about YOU do the math. I'd like to see what magical equation gets you this oft bandied stat.

[valenzuela]

Why do all 2+2ers go to vegas and play blackjack? that is clearly -ev.

[gildwulf]

The game of poker is zero-sum when played in its pure form (ie play a 10 dollar buy-in with a couple of buddies and someone wins and someone loses). However, when you play against a house it becomes non-zero sum: the more you bet the smaller amount of winnings exist to divide amongst players.

[lacky]

a few of us dont

[Moonsugar]

Over about 100 215s my ROI is -25% so I am donating to those guys.

I will be back to those games soon, so they have more profits to look for.

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