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08-16-2005, 05:31 PM
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Re: Dice Setting
Dont waiste your time or money. If he could do it that good he would be killing the tables, not ripping people off. I could out shoot him anyday. The real shooters stay low-key. There are not many ppl who can do it well, and you may never see one of them. Ill teach you how for $50 lol(for real [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]).
As far as dice sets. These are the main ones i use... Come out: Just make sure 7 shows on top and side. Ex: 4/3.5/2 If point is 6 or 8 use the flying V: hard 6 on top with 6 or 8 on the side Ex: 3/3.5/1 or 6/2 All other points I use Ten/four set: Ex:5/5.3/1 4/6.2/2 Although last session my ten/four was hitting everything so i stuck with it. For starters just try not to throw with seven showing on side or top after point is set. Stick with smaller tables and keep your throw consistent. Good Luck! 
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#12
08-17-2005, 11:51 AM
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Re: Dice Setting
Dice-setting in my opinion is crap. I think sector betting a roulette wheel has more merit. There are several things you can do to maximize the chances of hitting your sector.
1. Know the physics equations 2. Presolve them for a given rpm 3. Sector bet 7-10 spots after the wheel has been spun and if the rpm is close 4. Never use a roulette wheel that spins at constant velocity 5. Only sector bet when the manually spun wheel is slowed down such that the croupier will give it another spin on one of the next turns
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#13
08-18-2005, 09:58 AM
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Re: Dice Setting
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4. Never use a roulette wheel that spins at constant velocity 5. Only sector bet when the manually spun wheel is slowed down such that the croupier will give it another spin on one of the next turns [/ QUOTE ] You're 180 out of phase with these two conditions. Your fourth point is stunningly weird. Your fifth point is logistically wrong -- given the sequence of events and window of opportunity.
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#14
08-18-2005, 11:36 AM
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Re: Dice Setting
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] 4. Never use a roulette wheel that spins at constant velocity 5. Only sector bet when the manually spun wheel is slowed down such that the croupier will give it another spin on one of the next turns [/ QUOTE ] You're 180 out of phase with these two conditions. Your fourth point is stunningly weird. Your fifth point is logistically wrong -- given the sequence of events and window of opportunity. [/ QUOTE ] I know it sounds contradictory, but for instance the Borgata has new wheels that run at a constant velocity and never have to be manually spun. You'd think that it would simplify the physics equations because there is no deacceleration of the roulette wheel (and it does) but the variability of the ball is much greater when it hits making it basically impossible to predict within a 10 spot span. The trick is that they run that at a high enough speed such that the moment when the ball hits the wheel is more chaotic than if a wheel were spinning at a slower velocity and adhereing more closely to Newtonian physics. The point is, dice setting is crap and this at least has a resonable mathematical basis to it. I've had some success with it because you get 35:1 on your money for hitting a number
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#15
08-18-2005, 12:12 PM
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The point is, dice setting is crap [/ QUOTE ] Yes, its crap. Many casinos have banned dice setting just because they are "luckier" then everyone else,not because they're sets work. But thats your opinion, I felt similiar when I first heard about it.
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#16
08-18-2005, 03:27 PM
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Re: Dice Setting
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You'd think that it would simplify the physics equations because there is no deacceleration of the roulette wheel (and it does)... [/ QUOTE ] Have you ever watched a roulette wheel when nobody is playing? It's a fascinating piece of machining. If you give the wheel a spin and leave it alone, it will be spinning two hours later. One of the constants we used when timing a wheel was the wheel itself -- it only needed to be read once -- the (correct) assumption was no measurable degradation in the time of a single trial. If the Borgata is mechanically driving the wheel it's not for "constant velocity" -- it's for variation.
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#17
08-18-2005, 04:21 PM
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Re: Dice Setting
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The trick is that they run that at a high enough speed such that the moment when the ball hits the wheel is more chaotic than if a wheel were spinning at a slower velocity and adhereing more closely to Newtonian physics. [/ QUOTE ] Wow. Must be one hell of a fast-moving wheel
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#18
08-19-2005, 12:11 AM
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Re: Dice Setting
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] You'd think that it would simplify the physics equations because there is no deacceleration of the roulette wheel (and it does)... [/ QUOTE ] Have you ever watched a roulette wheel when nobody is playing? It's a fascinating piece of machining. If you give the wheel a spin and leave it alone, it will be spinning two hours later. One of the constants we used when timing a wheel was the wheel itself -- it only needed to be read once -- the (correct) assumption was no measurable degradation in the time of a single trial. If the Borgata is mechanically driving the wheel it's not for "constant velocity" -- it's for variation. [/ QUOTE ] Could be that they change it. I haven't timed it, but it seems to be going faster than a manually spun wheel.
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#19
08-20-2005, 12:04 AM
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Re: Dice Setting
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] The trick is that they run that at a high enough speed such that the moment when the ball hits the wheel is more chaotic than if a wheel were spinning at a slower velocity and adhereing more closely to Newtonian physics. [/ QUOTE ] Wow. Must be one hell of a fast-moving wheel [/ QUOTE ] LOL [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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