live NL win rate

#1 10-25-2005, 02:38 AM

I'm trying to figure out a decent win rate for loose Lower limit NL live games such as 2/5 and 5/10. Online, i hear a good win rate is between 5-10 big blinds but i have no idea what live would be like when factoring in rake/tips. Anybody have any statistics they can share???

Photoc · #2 10-25-2005, 02:44 AM

5-6x bb in live games says you're beating the game well.

boondockst · #3 10-25-2005, 10:30 AM

Most live NL games are unbeatable.

I got all in with QQ vs 77 (he thought it was a coinflip he said ?????) for $225 each in a 200max game and the guy hit quads.

Still trying to ease all the pain....

sloshr · #4 10-25-2005, 10:40 AM

re: coinflip... 50% you win, 50% you lose... sigh.

drewjustdrew · #5 10-25-2005, 10:45 AM

The biggest difference would be # of hands played live vs. online.

Ask this question in Mid-high stakes Pot-Limit & No-Limit forum. Lower limit is like 1-2 and lower on these forums.

sirpupnyc · #6 10-25-2005, 10:50 AM

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5-6x bb in live games says you're beating the game well.

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Per hour? Per 100? Is that just for 2-5 or 5-10 and not applicable to 1-2?

(There seems to me to be far, far greater success than 5-6BB to be had in most live 1-2NL games. If you can't do better than $10-12/whatever, there's probably some more profitable way for you to spend your time.)

drewjustdrew · #7 10-25-2005, 10:55 AM

He didn't say anything about 1-2. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

sirpupnyc · #8 10-25-2005, 10:57 AM

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He didn't say anything about 1-2. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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Yeah, I know...posting before coffee, bad me.

giantsrule · #9 10-25-2005, 11:29 AM

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i hear a good win rate is between 5-10 big blinds

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If you search you should be able to find info, but note when people talk about BB/hr or BB/100 I believe BB refers to big bets not big blinds, 1 big bet=2x big blind. Of course it really doesn't make sense to talk about big bets in NL, but it's used I believe because it's a # that you get from pokertracker (name?) or some other commonly used poker computer thing. I searched for win rate a long time ago and I think one common # may have been 10BB(big bets)/100

JFB37 · #10 10-25-2005, 12:20 PM

For live, I keep it by big bets (2x the big blind) per hour. I don't know an easy way to keep track of per 100.

I have a bit more than 200 hours in my database at a mix of 1/2NL, 5/5NL and 3/3PL. Over that time, my winrate is 5.84 BB/hour. However, my standard deviation is 24.98. Thus, my sample size is still way too small to even know if I am a winning player.