Matt Matros article from Card Player: AK and Fold Equity

http://www.cardplayer.com/poker_maga...amp;m_id=65565

opinions on this analysis?

[-Skeme-]

Very good article. I think I still have it bookmarked.

[Supern]

Do you think this applies to cash games though?
If you have 100bb and open raise is 4bb it seems you are risking alot by moving in.

AA and KK are going to call, but can we expect hands that we want to call to call? Especially from a big stack.

The article is about a small stack. But with deep stacks moving in seems like a bad move.

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The article is about a small stack. But with deep stacks moving in seems like a bad move.

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I agree - you can't push with AK with deep money. I'm inclined to think re-raising is still a good idea, provided that your flop c-bets are getting respect. However, not being able to push changes the maths considerably as you can't guarantee seeing all five cards.

I've been devaluing AK lately. I don't play it quite as aggressively as I used to. I don't like reraising with it, even from late postion. This is probably bad, but I've folded AK 3 times this week preflop. Once to a raise and min reraise in front of me and twice to a min reraise behind me when I was in MP. In all but one case I was behind a big pocket pair. In the third case the person also had AK and we'd have chopped against a short stack who pushed with 77.

I personally like TJ Cloutiers take on AK being rather weak. He rates it as being below TT and recommends not getting your chips in the middle with it preflop in cash games.

I also enjoyed this article by Daniel Negreanu on the vulnerability of AK

http://fullcontactpoker.com/daniel/strat...&ucat=&

[PinkSteel]

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Let’s say the under-the-gun (UTG) player has raised to three times the big blind at a ninehanded no-limit hold’em table.

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Next, let’s assign the UTG player a typical UTG range of hands — pocket pairs of sevens or higher, A-Q, A-K, A-J suited.

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Anyone else not buy this? My range for raises UTG in a nine-handed cash game is a lot tighter than this -- even at small stakes.

[DoomSlice]

I don't remember seeing anything about pushing 100BB with AK against a 4BB raise. A healthy reraise to 12BB is probably in order, though.

[Mathemagician]

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I don't remember seeing anything about pushing 100BB with AK against a 4BB raise. A healthy reraise to 12BB is probably in order, though.

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Why would you choose 12BB here? Doesn't a reraise to 12BB price in pocket pairs to try to hit a set?

M

[DoomSlice]

Not unless you're planning on losing your stack every time you hit an A or K. Remember, they'll hit the flop a lot less than you'll hit, so you don't even need to hit your AK to get a fold most of the time.

[Mathemagician]

When they fold or push, it's pretty clear. But when they call, it isn't so clear to me. I guess my question is really what hands do they raise 4BB UTG with that they do not call the 12BB reraise with?

Thanks!
M