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Old 11-19-2005, 06:14 PM
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Default Re: Stars 45K Final Table

Hi, my first post on this forum.

Asked for a deal twice, but no one seemed intrested. The call with 72, aint my proudest moment, but it's not as bad as you say either. Here's my thoughts: The opponent had made many strange plays during the finaletable. Betting very strong on pot without hitting. Calling pushes with J9o, and lost a pot vs K high an so on.

Jomar60: posts the ante 4000
FisherGod52: posts the ante 4000
Jomar60: posts small blind 40000
FisherGod52: posts big blind 80000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Jomar60 [7d 2d]: raises 160000 to 240000
FisherGod52: calls 160000
*** FLOP *** [5h 7s Ad]
FisherGod52: bets 3834489 and is all-in

When he makes a stop n go move here, it tell me that he don't have the A. This is a move I've seen a lot of times with draws, low pairs and as pure bluffs. So I put him on a draw, low pair, or maybe a mid pair. I think there is a reasonable chance that I'm in front, and that I got 5 outs + a backdoor flush draw if I'm behind.

Not a very good play, but I think the push is worse.

Is this retarded thinking?
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Old 11-19-2005, 06:17 PM
Jurollo Jurollo is offline
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Default Re: Stars 45K Final Table

You called the push didnt you? So clearly whatever moves he had made previously set you up for this one. Not to mention, he has a lot of his chips in the pot and is first to act on an A high flop, pushing here represents an A even though he only has the K's. I don't mind the push at all, in fact I make similar moves when shorthanded.
~Justin
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Old 11-19-2005, 06:18 PM
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Default Re: Stars 45K Final Table

very horrible. you have a pair of 7s with a deuce kicker.
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Old 11-19-2005, 06:19 PM
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Default Re: Stars 45K Final Table

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You called the push didnt you? So clearly whatever moves he had made previously set you up for this one. Not to mention, he has a lot of his chips in the pot and is first to act on an A high flop, pushing here represents an A even though he only has the K's. I don't mind the push at all, in fact I make similar moves when shorthanded.
~Justin

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yea, but seriously, 4 million into a 400k pot? h also wasn't the pfr, he flat called with KK

if he loses this pot he is completely crippled

i dont think the risk:reward is good enough to justify pushing 10xpot
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Old 11-19-2005, 06:19 PM
Jurollo Jurollo is offline
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He played it poorly preflop by not reraising you and got scared when the A hit the flop, seems like a pretty straightforward reason for the play, your call is terrible though.
~Justin
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Old 11-19-2005, 06:20 PM
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I don't like the push either, but the call is much worse.
~Justin
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Old 11-19-2005, 06:26 PM
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Default Re: Stars 45K Final Table

Ain't too much about what I got. It's more about what he got, and why he is making this move. He bets like he doesn't want a call, and didn't hit his hand, or is on a draw.
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Old 11-19-2005, 06:34 PM
Jurollo Jurollo is offline
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Default Re: Stars 45K Final Table

For future reference, dont post results for hands like this... you will get better analysis if you dont.
~Justin
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Old 11-19-2005, 06:38 PM
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He played it poorly preflop by not reraising you and got scared when the A hit the flop, seems like a pretty straightforward reason for the play, your call is terrible though.
~Justin

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That's a really bad reason for the play. It's probably the reasoning he used, but it's horrible to push because the flop could have wrecked your hand.
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Old 11-19-2005, 06:40 PM
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Yes, the results was already out in a previous post. Tnx for your thougts. I don't like my call too much either, but don't think it's that terrible.

Guess it's those calls you make when you've been awake for 30+ hours and should've been asleep before the tourney started [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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