Heartland Poker Tour allows questionable entry option

[tek]

for the November event. Read the last sentence. Then let's discuss the merits of this. I have been in contact with Greg Lang (who along with Todd are great guys) at HPT and registered my opposition to this. He informed me that it was introduced because "Paul The reason this came about is several individuals that did not qualify have been requesting it..."

My reply was "Some guys with more money than skill will buy in and suck out at the Sunday tables instead of taking their chances with their 8 3 offsuits in the qualifying round. So those of us who have 440 or 550 or 275, but not 2000 are penalized twice. Once by having to qualify and the second by having more donks make the finals than normal."

Geez, How about if I pay $4000 and go directly to the final table?

Grand Casino - Hinckley will Be Hosting
The Heartland Poker Tour
on November 25th - 27th, 2005

Preliminary Qualifiers will be held on November 25th & 26th at 10:00am and 5:00pm. The top 20% advance to Sunday. Final table will be televised to air at a later date.
Buy-In: $400 + $40 Entry Fee · Pay back for top 30 places!

Direct Buy-In To Sunday's Final Is Now Available!
Buy-in to Sunday's Finals For $2,200
Available Saturday from 5:00pm until 7:45am on Sunday

HPT website

[whiskeytown]

I'll be skipping that one.

RB

[miajag81]

I don't get it; how is this any different from any other big tournament where you can either win an entry through a satellite or buy in directly?

[Chief911]

Its not.

And to not want more donk direct buy-in people is a HORRIBLE argument. Please read what you are saying. So you want the competition on Sunday to be HARDER? I dont get it.

I'll take a field of 400 with 200 donks over a field of 200 with 0 donks any day.

I'm happy to see the direct buyin. I can't drive that far and be gone on weekdays with a "chance" to qualify for the main event on Sunday. I'm very tempted to hit one of these, and am glad to see them implement the direct buyin option.

Call me a donk if you will.

Nick

[CardSharpCook]

The only way this could be a bad thing is if the buy-in money didn't go into the prize pool. You know, if the only prize was pride, then I'd agree with you completely. As is, your argument is baffling. I'm scratching my head wondering if you are serious.

Please remember that tournaments are only profitable as long as there are players worse than you in the tournament. The worse they are, the better.

[tek]

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I don't get it; how is this any different from any other big tournament where you can either win an entry through a satellite or buy in directly?

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This is a direct buy-in to the final round...Satellites just get you into the regular qualifying rounds.

[TomHimself]

stop whining

[tek]

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Please remember that tournaments are only profitable as long as there are players worse than you in the tournament. The worse they are, the better.

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I disagree. Even I'm the only one to say this, I'll say it. I think better competitors make a better competition. We could argue all day about this.

One point that I am making and nobody is touching on is the direct buy-in itself. I perhaps shouldn't have muddied the issue by throwing the phrase donk in.

I just feel that allowing a direct buy-in is unfair to the majority of the field. Now from a money management point of view, it's stupid to spend $2k for a chance to win $30k. With $2k one could enter a bigger tourny and play for a bigger payoff. So in that regard it's may seem acceptable since the extra 1600 will go into the prize fund and be a quasi "tax" on those guys.

But still, not all of the 150-200 players financially have this option, so it is unfair.

It's also unfair because 150-200 players will have to beat 80% of the players in their qualifying round, while the guys blowing $2k won't.

And as I said in my OP; if this is fair then let me put up $4k and go directly to the final table...

[Chief911]

Logic obviously is not one of your strong suits.

Have you ever heard of the term game selection?

The WSOP is unfair too btw. I mean, how fair is it that people can buy in directly to the main event for 10k, while the majority of us have to "qualify" by beating 95% of the field to get into the main event. UNFAIR I tell you.

I hurt that I have to post this.

Nick