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Old 10-09-2005, 04:58 PM
Bukem_ Bukem_ is offline
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Default Re: Aces against wtfsvi

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There is definitly no AQ in my range. Remember, I'm not stupid.

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And AK, JJ are out too, unless you think they are both full of it. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Edit: I'm only talking pre.

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lol I should really take the time to read posts properly, only just realised wtfsvi wasn't orig raiser. His call clearly indicates AA-QQ, AA being unlikely and KK being more likely than QQ.

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Ding DIng Ding. THought I went crazy for a second this weak tight forum suddenly burning money with aq.
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Old 10-10-2005, 12:52 AM
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Default Re: Aces against wtfsvi

Will WTFSVI oblige us with what he had? I am curious.
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Old 10-10-2005, 12:57 AM
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Default Re: Aces against wtfsvi

Was this on eurobet? or was this on party?
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Old 10-10-2005, 01:00 AM
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Default Re: Aces against wtfsvi

Push turn. If he outdrew you, he paid too much to do so. I'm never folding when I get that much of my stack in preflop.

Edit: Oh, I'm also re-raising bigger out of the blinds. Make it 80 at least, IMO. If people fold too often, do it more frequently. It is better to make your raises bigger out of position and then balance the frequency for the bigger raise rather than to make them smaller and then balance the frequency for the smaller raise.
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Old 10-10-2005, 01:16 AM
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Default Re: Aces against wtfsvi

I agree with reraising bigger out of the blinds.

but are you saying due to how much wtf called preflop, even if he outflops us, its ok?
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Old 10-10-2005, 01:19 AM
TheWorstPlayer TheWorstPlayer is offline
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Default Re: Aces against wtfsvi

Yup. If he has KK here and I get it all in on the turn every time a K flops and he folds the flop every time a K doesn't flop (unlikely!) I'm still making money from his preflop call. But if I start letting him bluff me out on the river for less than a pot-sized bet then I'm likely going to be losing money. So if he's playing normal, push the turn. If he's playing super aggro, check turn and check river but you better call if he bets. NO FOLDING! (Which is even clearer if you make it 80 preflop. Another good reason to make it 80. Postflop plays itself.)
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Old 10-10-2005, 01:38 AM
Malachii Malachii is offline
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Default Re: Aces against wtfsvi

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Will WTFSVI oblige us with what he had? I am curious.

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He obviously had the nuts. Come on dude, it's Wtfsvi.
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Old 10-10-2005, 09:14 AM
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Default Re: Aces against wtfsvi

You're right about preflop, no question. It's weird, I thought I had bet sizes down decently, but last week I made too samll reraises with aces at least three times. I lost big pots on all three hands, so maybe that will teach me finally.
Also, of course I won't ever fold this hand if I make it 80 pre.

I disagree however with just getting it in knowing its -EV cause I reraised preflop. It's really rare for me to fold in those spots, but sometimes it can be correct. It may or may not be in this instance. And as for getting bluffed out, well me and wtfsvi don't really have any metagame thing going yet, but if he starts thinking he can push me around I just have to adapt to that and call him more. I don't see that as a big problem. Also people that have played with me know I am not exactly a big folder.
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Old 10-10-2005, 09:19 AM
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Default Re: Aces against wtfsvi

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Was this on eurobet? or was this on party?

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eurobet
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Old 10-10-2005, 09:41 AM
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Default Re: Aces against wtfsvi

One of my favorite lines in TOP:

"If you act weak and induce a bluff, you must call it when he bets" (Paraphrased)
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