What to do on the Flop AQs

[Vern]

I prefer to cold call AQs pre-flop but if it is a loose-passive table, I have TP2K and am facing two cold on the flop with no other decent draws, I either raise or more likely fold. Hard to say since I know the results now, but with TP2K against multiple opponents I want to see a showdown cheaply or be the one charging others to see the showdown, not paying multibets most likely drawing thin to dead.

Vern

[btspider]

shill is saying fold the flop.. i concur.

PF, i think folding, cold-calling, and 3-betting are all pretty close. i'd fold and wait for a read. the suitedness is a bit overrated if you are 3-betting this and trying to isolate. i'd prefer a cold-call to a 3-bet. a fold isn't bad either until you have a read. you won't make much when you flop an Ace and have the best hand. you will often see a showdown with the second best hand if he has AK.

[davelin]

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Fold. 3-betting is out of the question. If you had some kind of read on anyone you could make this call if they raise like fools PF and play poor postflop.


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I'm shocked anyone said fold this hand here. We're talking folding for 1 raise from MP.

What kind of hands would you call with preflop with 2 cold against unknowns? What hands do you 3-bet with?

I understand that my position is not the greatest in the world, and that many players at the table are unknown, but folding this hand in what traditionally is a loose/passive game is absolutely out of the question. In fact, since this hand does very well multiway, and many people at these limits will call 3 cold with any A, its almost a crime not to 3-bet it.

I think folding this hand in this spot in this game is very weak/tight.

Joe

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I usually cold-call this but as btspider said sometimes this is a pre-flop fold. You're dominated against many typical raising hands and only pulling even with most others.

[DeathDonkey]

I think 3 betting preflop is the best default play until you have a read. This can be a fold against the right type of opponent but not against the average one. I hate coldcalling here as position becomes an important factor for me if I am even considering coldcalling.

-DeathDonkey

[The13atman]

Easy fold. If MP1 had not raised, then of course raise it yourself, but facing 2 cold I can't muck fast enough.

[davelin]

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I think 3 betting preflop is the best default play until you have a read. This can be a fold against the right type of opponent but not against the average one. I hate coldcalling here as position becomes an important factor for me if I am even considering coldcalling.

-DeathDonkey

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I hate cold-calling too but I'm a little tentative 3-betting and possibly making short-handed a hand that may be dominated. If I am ahead of someone with 99-JJ, I may not make much if the flop hits me and they easily get away from their hand. Could be a win-little, lose-more possibly scenario.

[JoeU]

I'm suprised that there is such a range of advice about the preflop play of this hand.

I want to thank everyone who responded. It has definitely made me think about the play of AQs preflop.

I might pull some AQs hands from PT and post them here for further advice.

Thanks again to everyone who responded.


Joe

[JoeU]

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I think folding this hand in this spot in this game is very weak/tight.


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I wanted to edit this post, but was too late to do so.

I wanted to add:

I think folding this hand in this spot in this game is very weak/tight (but maybe I'm too loose/aggressive).

Joe

[Shillx]

Sorry dude, I was talking about folding postflop. I love the 3-bet preflop.

Brad

[Shillx]

Yeah fold the flop.

This hand is too good to goto the muck preflop IMO.

Brad