NLO8 - Comments on play

[hachkc]

Just curious what folks think about this hand. No argument, there was some luck (okay a lot) involved here. Would anyone have played it differently, the same, etc?

For some reason bison wouldn't convert the hand.

POKERSTARS GAME #2517074878: OMAHA HI/LO NO LIMIT ($2/$4) - 2005/09/06 - 23:57:10 (ET)
Table 'Lyra' Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: George Geo ($79.50 in chips)
Seat 2: homes ($831.65 in chips)
Seat 3: skysurfer3 ($117.50 in chips)
Seat 4: soora ($419.65 in chips)
Seat 5: DaBigBoy ($382 in chips)
Seat 6: AbdulCohen ($2221.95 in chips)
Seat 7: AlittleMount ($173.60 in chips)
Seat 8: hachkc ($366 in chips)
Seat 9: cardluvr ($56.45 in chips)
cardluvr: posts small blind $2
George Geo: posts big blind $4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hachkc [2s 4c 7d 3h]
homes: calls $4
skysurfer3: folds
soora: calls $4
DaBigBoy: folds
AbdulCohen: calls $4
AlittleMount: folds
hachkc: calls $4
cardluvr: calls $2
George Geo: checks
*** FLOP *** [Qs 4d 7h]
cardluvr: checks
George Geo: checks
homes: bets $32
soora: folds
AbdulCohen: folds
hachkc: calls $32
cardluvr: folds
George Geo: calls $32
*** TURN *** [Qs 4d 7h] [As]
George Geo: checks
homes: bets $104
hachkc: calls $104
George Geo: calls $43.50 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [Qs 4d 7h As] [4s]
homes: checks
hachkc: bets $104
homes: calls $104
*** SHOW DOWN ***
hachkc: shows [2s 4c 7d 3h] (HI: a full house, Fours full of Sevens; LO: 7,4,3,2,A)
homes: mucks hand
hachkc collected $164.50 from side pot
hachkc collected $164.50 from side pot
George Geo: mucks hand
hachkc collected $123.75 from main pot
hachkc collected $123.75 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $579.50 Main pot $247.50. Side pot $329. | Rake $3
Board [Qs 4d 7h As 4s]
Seat 1: George Geo (big blind) mucked [7s Td Qc Ac]
Seat 2: homes mucked [Ah 6h Qh 5s]
Seat 3: skysurfer3 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: soora folded on the Flop
Seat 5: DaBigBoy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: AbdulCohen folded on the Flop
Seat 7: AlittleMount folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: hachkc (button) showed [2s 4c 7d 3h] and won ($576.50) with HI: a full house, Fours full of Sevens; LO: 7,4,3,2,A
Seat 9: cardluvr (small blind) folded on the Flop

Calling with bottom 2 pairs on the flop is pretty risky, you almost have to assume you are going against top set, top 2, and/or the nut low. Of course, by the turn you are freerolling with the nut low. Definitely lucky, but I've pulled off stuff like that too. Probably a -EV play. Anyone else agree?

[Drizztdj]

You definitely hit your gin card on the turn (and river), but how would you have continued if the ace didn't fall?

Playing bottom two in Omaha is a sure way to go broke.

[GooperMC]

I would have folded or raised the flop depending on the opponent.

Once the A hits on the turn the hands plays itself.

[hachkc]

Here was my thought process during the hand. I admit this wasn't the best played of hands but I didn't sense any real strength from either of the other players and my read on the BB was right on in hindsight.

1. Preflop - Drawing to nut low with 5 other limpers on the button, I'll pay 1 bet and see if an A hits. If not, see ya.

2. Flop - Probably worst/riskiest played part of the hand. I read the $32 bet as a semi bluff with either a strong hi or low or weak shots at both. Three of the limpers dropped and I figured the SB would fold (he didn't). Not sure on SB's holdings.

3. Turn - Hit the nut low, an A. Hoping the A counterfeited any low the others were going after. Pretty much committed to this hand now. SB is all-in and I don't have clue what they are playing. Read on BB hasn't really changed

4. River - Scary miracle card, does my boat hold up or not? Probably should have either gone All-In or checked here after the BB checked, I made a weak bet 1/4 - 1/3 pot bet because I was still unsure of what everyone held.

Morale of the story, hand probably should have been folded after the flop but it wasn't and I got lucky. Kind of an ugly hand all the way around.

[hachkc]

Without the A, I'm outta there unless a 4 or 7 hit. Assuming the BB made the same bet, only an A, 4 or 7 would have kept me around.