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2 hands where i bet a lot
Hand 1:
Button is unknown Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls. Flop: (6.40 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG folds, Button calls. Turn: (4.20 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls. River: (6.20 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>... Hand 2: UTG is 36/12/1 31% WtSD Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, Button calls. Flop: (6.40 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, Button folds. Turn: (4.20 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls. River: (6.20 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>... So in both hands the boards keep getting worse and worse...or maybe its better and better...I keep betting... Thoughts? |
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Re: 2 hands where i bet a lot
hand 1 is the ol' clarkey on the river. I did this a lot tonight and people still looked me up with Qx no hearts. Bless 'em.
Hand 2 is like too. I think you should fold to a raise here too. |
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Re: 2 hands where i bet a lot
i have no clue
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Re: 2 hands where i bet a lot
Hand 1
I would have check raised the flop and taken it from there. Hand 2 I like |
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Re: 2 hands where i bet a lot
bump for the hard at work on monday aft. crowd
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Re: 2 hands where i bet a lot
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hand 1 is the ol' clarkey on the river. I did this a lot tonight and people still looked me up with Qx no hearts. Bless 'em. [/ QUOTE ] yeah we're behind Qx no hearts. check/fold the river.. he is calling you down with something and it is going to be a heart or a Q or better 9 or a naked ace and I think you're getting basically no value here and should just fold this hand, I don't think you're good 1/8 of the time on this board at all. [ QUOTE ] Hand 2 is like too. I think you should fold to a raise here too. [/ QUOTE ] I like Hand 2 fine. agree with Pete to fold to a raise. |
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Re: 2 hands where i bet a lot
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hand 1 is the ol' clarkey on the river. [/ QUOTE ] Not it's not. The clarkmeister is the most misunderstood concept of all time. It was orginally with a set, first to act, and a rivered 4 flush. The idea is you have a really strong hand, and some fold equity. Here, the value bet portion of the "clarkey" is very small. Worse pairs aren't ever calling this without a heart. |
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Re: 2 hands where i bet a lot
FWIW, hand one now seems like an easy check/fold
hand 2 seems like a bet/fold, but check call may be better since a small Ace will often check this behind and worse hand will almost always fold. I think you can say that against a CS then bet/fold and against a more aggro player or someone capable of folding a made hand on the river you should go for the bluff. |
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Re: 2 hands where i bet a lot
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[ QUOTE ] hand 1 is the ol' clarkey on the river. [/ QUOTE ] Not it's not. ...snipped... Worse pairs aren't ever calling this without a heart. [/ QUOTE ] My question is what about better pairs...I think I have a decent chance to fold a non-heart hand...cause my play is starting to look more and more like I dont mind the 4-flush on the board. What do you think? |
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Re: 2 hands where i bet a lot
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] hand 1 is the ol' clarkey on the river. [/ QUOTE ] Not it's not. ...snipped... Worse pairs aren't ever calling this without a heart. [/ QUOTE ] My question is what about better pairs...I think I have a decent chance to fold a non-heart hand...cause my play is starting to look more and more like I dont mind the 4-flush on the board. What do you think? [/ QUOTE ] i don't think a Q is ever folding - it's like Pete said. I don't think better nines make up anywhere close to 1/7.2 of his range and even then it's not near 100% he's folding those. |
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