K8o HU vs SB, and a 77hand

[bottomset]

villian is loose, bad, and pretty tricky postflop

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: bottomset is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">bottomset raises</font>, SB calls.

Flop: (4 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">bottomset bets</font>, SB calls.

Turn: (3 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, bottomset checks.

River: (3 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, bottomset calls.

Final Pot: 5 BB


both villians unknown
Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: bottomset is MP with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">bottomset raises</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (7 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">bottomset bets</font>, CO calls, SB calls.

Turn: (5 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">bottomset bets</font>, CO folds, SB calls.

good bet here?

River: (7 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, bottomset bets? .

if it was a nonflush completing J would you bet?

[thesharpie]

Hand 1 is nice. You don't have to worry about giving a free card unless he has an unlikely set, and you don't risk being bluffed out and might induce a bluff, or might even induce a call if he checks the river.

Hand 2 turn bet is a must, what makes you think they hold a jack? I'd value bet the river. You can almost forget about him holding a jack, so it's either a flush, or some pair or ace high and I think alot more hands are calling that you beat.

[Duerig]

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I'd value bet the river.

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I don't think I would. I'd put villian on overcards, a draw, or something like 88. I can't imagine a worse hand calling. Maybe Ace high?

[SCfuji]

hand 1 looks good
hand 2 i bet a flush completing jack and a nonflush completing jack. i will pay off to a checkraise because they are unknowns.

[J. Stew]

Why aren't we betting the turn in hand 1?

[SCfuji]

induce a bluff on the river

[bottomset]

Hand1: villian had 77noheart

Hand2: I checked behind, I figured my opponent was most likely on a draw, and I wouldn't get payed by a worse hand, not sure how many 6x, 5x, 4x hand he could have there, or if he'd call with Ahigh.

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he showed AKo

Hand 1: You pick up a straight draw to add to your TPDK HU? Bet the turn, call a raise and call the river with no 7.

Hand 2: Bet the river. Hes calling down with any piece.

[aK13]

I like Hand 1.

Hand 2 is tricky. I think checking is ok, or bet/folding depending on how loose he is. I definitely bet and probably call a raise in hand 2 if it wasn't a [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

[car ramrod]

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Hand 1: You pick up a straight draw to add to your TPDK HU? Bet the turn, call a raise and call the river with no 7.


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I don't like your reasoning in hand 1. I think bottomset played it perfect. The turn brings a 4th [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], so the straight does nothing for us. We have a small flush. By checking thru, we avoid a check raise if he has a high [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], and if he doesn't we can induce a bluff on the river and win one more bet.