Roulette

[henrikrh]

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Thanks, that's excactly the reply i needed, will be googling around on this for a few hours now. Do casino's mind use of this strategy? Is it more profitable that regular roulette play?

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....uh????

did you read his post or not?

EVERY BET ON A COLOR IN ROULETE HAS THE SAME EV. all you are doing is changing varience. Even after reading his post your brain still couldnt understand that eventually thar 0.00001 percent chance will happen.

AND NO CASINOS DONT CARE THEY LIKE YOUR MONEY

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Think about the type of person you are and hate yourself.

[stigmata]

Could I use a big electromagnetic concealed in my underpants to control the sector the ball lands in? Is the ball made of metal? Would they notice when the ball jumps out and sticks to my groin?

[flatline]

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I make 4 assumtions here:
1, We have unlimited money.
2, We have unlimited time to complete each session.
3, The casino also also got unlimited time and money.
4, Winning chance is bigger than zero, so a string of losses can never be infinite like you suggest.

Every session will land on +EV after completion under these conditions. These conditions are 100% impossible to apply of course.

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I get it now. The main thing is that even with unlimited time and money, the player who use this system will never be 100% sure to win it. The figure will be 99,999999999999999% etc etc but never 100%.
The Condition that every martingaler is allowed to complete his session is mathematically impossible.

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You are wrong. If the conditions listed are true (which, of course, are impossible conditions), the chances of winning are 100%. The bet will eventually win, and then you will be ahead. I don't see why people argue against this.

[OrangeKing]

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I make 4 assumtions here:
1, We have unlimited money.
2, We have unlimited time to complete each session.
3, The casino also also got unlimited time and money.
4, Winning chance is bigger than zero, so a string of losses can never be infinite like you suggest.

Every session will land on +EV after completion under these conditions. These conditions are 100% impossible to apply of course.

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I get it now. The main thing is that even with unlimited time and money, the player who use this system will never be 100% sure to win it. The figure will be 99,999999999999999% etc etc but never 100%.
The Condition that every martingaler is allowed to complete his session is mathematically impossible.

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You are wrong. If the conditions listed are true (which, of course, are impossible conditions), the chances of winning are 100%. The bet will eventually win, and then you will be ahead. I don't see why people argue against this.

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Why will it eventually win?

[wtfsvi]

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You are wrong. If the conditions listed are true (which, of course, are impossible conditions), the chances of winning are 100%.

[/ QUOTE ] No. If we have unlimited money, the chances of winning are 0%. So are the chances of losing. Because $infinite +/- $X is not more or less than $infinite.

They key here is that the conditions are impossible. Unlimited money makes no sense, and you can't talk about adding any number to infinite. Nor can you talk about subtracting any number from infinite (not any finite number anyway).

[joshman1204]

if you assume an infinte bankroll you have to be willing to assume and infinte streak of losses. I dont care how small the chance of it happening is, fact is there is still a chance of it happening. Roulette is a game of individual trials meaning that every spin is independant of the last so it is completly possible for a never ending streak of one color to occur. It is an insanely small possiblity but then so is the possiblity of having an infinite bankroll or finding a casion willing to accept an infinite amount of action.

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I dont care how small the chance of it happening is, fact is there is still a chance of it happening. Roulette is a game of individual trials meaning that every spin is independant of the last so it is completly possible for a never ending streak of one color to occur. It is an insanely small possiblity but then so is the possiblity of having an infinite bankroll or finding a casion willing to accept an infinite amount of action.

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OK, your error is that you don't understand that 99.999999999999...(going on forever) equals 100. I think this was taught in 7th grade.

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no that is your error!

you are rounding which was taught in seventh grade but in real math not everyone rounds! just because it rounds up to 100 does not mean it really equals 100.

you are basically saying 99.91238471239847128937498123471239847281934782391 74238194728391478923147839247893214798347 = 100

which is not true, it can be rounded to 100 but it does not equal 100... you nit!

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no that is your error!

you are rounding which was taught in seventh grade but in real math not everyone rounds! just because it rounds up to 100 does not mean it really equals 100.

you are basically saying 99.91238471239847128937498123471239847281934782391 74238194728391478923147839247893214798347 = 100

which is not true, it can be rounded to 100 but it does not equal 100... you nit!

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You changed what I said. I said 99.9999999...

Put 1/9 into your calculator, you get .11111111111...
Put 2/9 and you get .22222222222...
put 9/9 and you get 1, which is the same thing as .999999999...

I am not talking about rounding. You didn't do well in math class, did you?

[joshman1204]

simply put YOURE WRONG!