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Old 08-29-2005, 08:26 AM
sirio11 sirio11 is offline
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Default Some hands from levels 3 and 4, legends WPT

<font color="blue"> Level 3: 75-150 blinds </font>

3a: I have KQh in the button.

MP raises to 550, I call.

Flop: Q53; he bets 600, I call.

Turn: 9; he checks, I bet 600, he raises to 2100, I call.

River: K; he checks, I bet 3000, he folds.

3b: I have KQs in LP.

EP raises to 550, MP calls, I call, BT calls. Pot is 2425

Flop: 887 with 1 spade; EP checks, MP checks, I check, BT checks.

Turn: 4s; EP checks, MP bets 1200, I call, BT and EP fold.

River: 2s; After a while, MP decides to bet 2200 into the 4825 pot; I consider the situation and call.

He shows AJs for the nut flush and beats my K high flush.

Allen Cunningham is moved to my table to seat 5, to my left, I'm in seat 4.

And that was level 3.

<font color="blue"> Level 4: Blinds 100-200 </font>

4a: I'm with 77 in the BT

I raise to 600. Allen C. is in the SB, he decides to reraise to 2100, BB folds, I then reraise to 6100 and Allen folds.

4b: I'm in the BB with Q9.

BT raises to 500, I call

Flop: QJ3; I check, BT bets 700, I raise to 2000, he folds.

4c: I have KQ in LP.

MP raises to 600, I call and SB calls.

Flop: AJ3; SB checks, MP checks, I bet 700, SB folds, MP folds.

4d: I have TT in LP

I raise to 600; BB calls.

Flop: 963, BB bets 525, I call.

Turn: 5; BB bets 2000, I call.

River: J; BB checks, mmmmm, I check.

He shows 65h for 2 pairs.

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Old 08-29-2005, 08:50 AM
bmxreed36 bmxreed36 is offline
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Default Re: Some hands from levels 3 and 4, legends WPT

nh's. except 3b, that sucks. i thought 3a was pretty interesting, what hand(s) did you put him on and what was your thought process throughout it? at first read, the check-raise on the turn looks scary but then i realized you had only bet less than 1/4 the pot. were you pretty sure you were ahead and just giving him some bait? also, how much did you have behind when you re-re-raised allen?
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Old 08-29-2005, 11:05 AM
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Default Re: Some hands from levels 3 and 4, legends WPT

Don't we need stack sizes to know what's going on?
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Old 08-29-2005, 11:06 AM
schwza schwza is offline
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Default Re: Some hands from levels 3 and 4, legends WPT

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3a: I have KQh in the button.

MP raises to 550, I call.

Flop: Q53; he bets 600, I call.

Turn: 9; he checks, I bet 600, he raises to 2100, I call.

River: K; he checks, I bet 3000, he folds.

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why no check behind on the turn? i'd want to induce a bluff, encourage a call from 88.

and what's with no suits or stack sizes?
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Old 08-29-2005, 11:17 AM
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Default Re: Some hands from levels 3 and 4, legends WPT

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and what's with no suits or stack sizes?

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I assume suits were mentioned only when relevent and that he didn't record stack sizes.
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Old 08-29-2005, 11:26 AM
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Default Re: Some hands from levels 3 and 4, legends WPT

I think you need to raise the flop on 4d and make him pay to catch.
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Old 08-29-2005, 11:29 AM
schwza schwza is offline
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Default Re: Some hands from levels 3 and 4, legends WPT

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and what's with no suits or stack sizes?

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I assume suits were mentioned only when relevent and that he didn't record stack sizes.

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you don't think it's relevant to know if a flop is 2-tone or rainbow even if you don't have the suits?
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Old 08-29-2005, 12:31 PM
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Default Re: Some hands from levels 3 and 4, legends WPT

3a. I think a smaller river bet of T1500.
I think he has a hand like JJ and won't call anything on the river, and if he has a weak Q then he won't call T3000.

3b. I guess this is one reason why its a fold PF.

4d. Raise the flop.
It's hard for him to bet the turn OOP without being able to beat TPTK.
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Old 08-29-2005, 12:43 PM
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Default Re: Some hands from levels 3 and 4, legends WPT

3a) I don't have the guts to bet or call a checkraise on the turn, hence not betting [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Did you have a pretty good read?

4d) I probably would have raised to 1.6-2k on the flop with TT, with AA-KK I'd have smooth called. I've just seen too many players lead into a board like that with just overcards, only to catch up later on. So I might have made the right play for the wrong reasons [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 08-29-2005, 12:44 PM
DonT77 DonT77 is offline
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Default Re: Some hands from levels 3 and 4, legends WPT

Thanks for posting these hands David - good stuff.

Hand 3a - when he check-raised your turn bet what range did you have him on? KQ is kind of a scary holding in that situation - another WA/WB scenario until the K came on the river. I think I probably play the hand the same as you did, but I'm a little worried ATT until the K comes off.

Hand 3b - I don't think you could have played this hand any different either. With the board paired and with only the K-high flush you have to proceed with caution.

4a-4c well played / standard

4d - this is the interesting hand. I think about raising the flop, but I'd like to hear what others think about this situation. I'd considering raising ATF here for these reasons-
1) to get BB to define his hand if he has JJ-AA
2) to make drawing to 2 overcards, a gutshot, or a smaller pair incorrect

OTOH if you are ahead in the hand and your opponent is drawing to 0-6 outs you might want to let him keep the lead in the hand. What would you do if he checked the turn to you - would you then bet or check?
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