What can be learned here?

Grinder · #1 01-07-2005, 02:48 AM

No reads on the others 5th hand of SNG

Here's the story

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t10 (10 handed) converter

Button (villian) (t955)
SB (other player) (t970)
BB (t1145)
UTG (t925)
Hero (t1090)
UTG+2 (t990)
MP1 (t995)
MP2 (t980)
MP3 (t980)
CO (t970)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG folds, Hero raises to t20, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button (villian) calls t20, SB (other player) calls t15, BB folds.

Flop: (t70) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
other player checks, Hero bets t70, villian calls t70, other player calls t70.

Turn: (t280) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
other player checks, Hero bets t500, villian calls t500, other player calls t500, Hero calls t0, villian calls t0.

River: (t1780) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)

Final Pot: t1780
Main Pot: t1780 (t1780), between villian, other player and Hero. > Pot won by villian (t1780).

Results in white below: 
villian has 2c 3c (flush, ace high).
other player has 8d Ad (two pair, aces and eights).
Hero has Td Ah (two pair, aces and tens).
Outcome: villian wins t1780.

adanthar · #2 01-07-2005, 02:50 AM

3 things:
1)Folding trash out of position PF
2)Not minraising trash out of position PF
3)Not posting bad beat stories

Grinder · #3 01-07-2005, 02:55 AM

trying to learn for real my third post
my a 10 was weak but cheap entry to flop
minraising? i was all in

bad beat sorry not aware of the etique of that 4give me

ThorGoT · #4 01-07-2005, 03:11 AM

Formatting seems messed up -- the total pots don't add up. What to learn from this? Well, you did the right thing given the actual holdings -- 75% of the time, or so, you triple up here. So, the lesson you should take away from it is, bet enough on the turn to make someone drawing for a flush make a mistake if they call. Which you did, but they did, and **** happened. Your next four posts should reflect you winning this hand. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

niin · #5 01-07-2005, 03:52 AM

The preflop min-raise in early position was bad. If you're going to raise, raise. Raising minimum doesn't do anything, 'specially at the 5/10 level. Raising to 20 is just bleeding chips... raise more, limp, or fold (at this level I'd fold this in early position).

This early in a tournament, ATo isn't a very strong hand. Think of the hands that are likely to call you... KK/QQ/JJ will definitely call you, AK/AQ will likely call you, AJ might call you. You're not in very good shape against any of those.

You hit a good flop regardless; top two pair is pretty good but vulnerable, 'specially with the flush draw out there which, if it hits, you're drawing to 4 outs. Pretty tough situation... villian's play was questionable too.