Pots getting a little large for my TPGK

RED FACE · #1 12-22-2005, 10:54 PM

Unless they both have TJ you are screwed. Check and pray for the A of clubs.

Your reads make me think you just might have a chop at this point on turn but there's no way I risk it. I could see myself calling a smallish/medium bet on river depending on many things.

I guess your reads could allow for BB to be betting into a draw(str8 hopefully) and UTG to have a Q.

When there are 2 flush cards out how many people bet into a str8 draw first to act? Some, no doubt.

I don't think your flop raise is bad at all, it just failed.

ajmargarine · #2 12-22-2005, 11:02 PM

Yeah, when they both called me, my only hope would seem to be that one held TJ and the other something like QJ/QT. You would think if BB held a set or two pair he would have reraised my flop raise. I think I'm facing a made flush here now a significant percentage of the time.

If the turn was 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] instead of clubs, I think another bet would be in order, correct?

RED FACE · #3 12-22-2005, 11:14 PM

You would have tpKk-no-draw in position vs 2 on turn with a $75 pot. Most effective bets would pot commit you I think and I hate to lose my stack w one pair. You have contributed ~$25 to the pot so far. I may be flamed for this but I think I would check the turn giving free draws galore and hope for a blank and cheap showdown. That may be too tight a play but the only other play puts your stack at risk with 1 pair vs 2. If you had strong reads and your opponents were decent-so that the reads would be reliable- you could push but against unknowns I'm trying not to lose my stack w 1 pair.

#4 12-22-2005, 11:56 PM

Is MP1 loose enough to cold call a raise w/ KQ? I think 2 ppl calling your flop raise pretty much says your beat. Unless these guys have a habit of calling w/ mediocre hands. But definitely check behind and reevaluate on the river. If I miss the flush I'd probably fold to a large bet, because what would they be betting that's worse than QK? If I hit the flush and someone bet big...then I have no clue. Try to find a cheap showdown if at all possible.