2/4 Throwing away money with bottom set.

ryanghall · #1 08-09-2005, 02:04 PM

Empire 400NL full ring.

I have $394, Villain (19/5/1.2) has me covered. I believe he's a winning player.

I get 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] in EMP

Villain limps, I limp, PFR raises to $20. All fold to Villain who calls and I call.

Flop is 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Villain checks, I bet $60, which is around the pot size. PFR folds. Villain makes it $180. I call.

Turn is 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

He pushes.

Uhh yeah. Just donate him the money I guess? Like.. what could he have? He's 1.2 aggression...

#2 08-09-2005, 02:07 PM

Yeah this is bad - the 10% of the time he doesn't have a higher set he has 97 for the straight - I hate folding sets but after the flop check-raise would be the time to do it

TheWorstPlayer · #3 08-09-2005, 02:20 PM

Probably straight or bigger set. I'm pretty sure it's a leak, but I still call. He could have massive draw. He could have two pair. He could have trickily played overpair trying to trap PFR and trapping you instead. Your hand is strong, your stack's not that deep, the board is draw heavy. I don't like folding here.

djoyce003 · #4 08-09-2005, 02:21 PM

yeah you are almost certainly behind here. the only reasonable hand for villain to have is 77, and his agression stats make me think he wouldn't play that this way. He limped and called a normal sized raise which makes me think PP and it has to be higher than yours. Given this particular villain I think i could find a fold here.

DrPublo · #5 08-09-2005, 02:28 PM

If I were villain I might play 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] the same way. I probably stack off here.

The Doc

tripdad · #6 08-09-2005, 02:59 PM

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If I were villain I might play 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] the same way. I probably stack off here.

The Doc

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do you often limp in EP with a drawing hand like this? i find it awefully hard to get maximum value on a hand like this. i would be interested in hearing more about how you play these hands profitably out of position to a PFR.

cheers!

Mike Peters · #7 08-09-2005, 03:09 PM

With a VPIP of 19 and him limping from EP I don't think I include 97 or 87 in his hand range. 88 or 66 seem a lot more likely.

I'd probably stack this guy here too unfortunately.

#8 08-09-2005, 03:15 PM

I actually only included that 10% because even very tight players get bored/bad card runs and do odd things sometimes - but I agree that 66 or 88 are far more likely

ryanghall · #9 08-10-2005, 12:53 AM

I called. He had 88 and MHING.

Oh well.
Ryan

TheWorstPlayer · #10 08-10-2005, 01:02 AM

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Probably straight or bigger set. I'm pretty sure it's a leak, but I still call.

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