AK against 2 agressive opponents

[RockPile]

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB caps</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (16.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (10.25 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, MP3 calls.

River: (14.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP3 calls.

Final Pot: 16.25 BB

[istewart]

How aggressive are they? More specific reads would help. Even when you factor in the likelihood of a raise behind you on the flop I think you can peel (especially with the BD flush draw). Even if you know he'll raise you're essentially getting 10:1.

[RandBriscoe]

I play it the same way. Offsuit, I grit my teeth and call when it comes back to me capped pf.

You can't be sure that any of your A or K outs are clean. I think you need some solid draws to continue past this flop especially suspecting that MP3 is waiting behind you with his pointer on the raise button...

I think this is a good fold.

[RandBriscoe]

Trying my hand at this "grunching" business...

And if MP3 raises and it comes back to Hero capped by BB (which we have good reason to suspect could happen)? Do you call again desperate for a Q, T or another spade?

In my estimation we have 3 outs: the two backdoor draws. I fold.

[istewart]

[ QUOTE ]
Trying my hand at this "grunching" business...

And if MP3 raises and it comes back to Hero capped? Do you call again desperate for another spade?

In my estimation we have 3 outs: the two backdoor draws. I fold.

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Well it can't come back to Hero capped. The OP said they were aggressive but I'd like to know a bit more than that, like I said.

Only giving 3 outs is undervaluing the hand in my opinion. I'd say we have about 5 to 6.

[RockPile]

I should have had PlayerView turned on.. when I checked them out after they were both total maniacs.... were talking 80/20 type numbers

I try not to cry when I read the results... oh well


Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has Qh Qd (one pair, queens).
MP3 has Qs Qc (one pair, queens).
Outcome: BB wins 8.12 BB. MP3 wins 8.12 BB. </font>

[ArturiusX]

Tough spot.

A read is the only way to save your ass here.

[milesdyson]

I'm calling the flop and folding if it comes back 2 bets. Backdoor flush, straight, plus the chance that your ace outs are good makes this a "call and hope" for me.

[sungod]

The pot is too big to fold. You have a backdoor straight and a backdoor nut flush draw, as well as two overcards that might be good. I would call it, call a raise and fold on the turn UI.