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Old 04-17-2005, 05:32 PM
cold_cash cold_cash is offline
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Default Re: JJ vs scary flop

That's okay.

If he didn't cap the turn with the Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] it's doubtful he's going to raise the river with it.

You lose one bet either way whether you check and call or bet and get called.
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Old 04-17-2005, 05:39 PM
grjr grjr is offline
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Default Re: JJ vs scary flop

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Shill, you check and call this river after the way the turn went?

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Not Shill but for the Villain to raise but not cap I feel there's a good chance he has the Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

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Do you see the problem with this logic?? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

If he has the Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] he will call our river bet and we lose 1 BB. However if we check, he will surely bet and then our check/call costs us 1 BB as well. The problem with checking is that we get a call from the T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and the 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and what not (and he might check these hands behind).

Brad

[/ QUOTE ]That sounds good but then what do you do if he raises the river?
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Old 04-17-2005, 06:02 PM
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Default Re: JJ vs scary flop ***RESULTS***

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Jc Jh (flush, king high).
UTG has Qh 6c (flush, king high).
Outcome: UTG wins 11 BB. </font>
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Old 04-17-2005, 06:07 PM
McGahee McGahee is offline
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Default Re: JJ vs scary flop

I have a dumb question:
Lets assume villian has nuts. If he smoothcalls the turn 3-bet hoping inducing a river bet, he can raise and win 5 BB's between the turn &amp; river. Doesn't he win those same 5 BB's by capping the turn and getting checked/called on the river?
Or is hero supposed to fold this on the river after a turn cap?
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Old 04-17-2005, 09:05 PM
mlb3zr mlb3zr is offline
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Default Re: JJ vs scary flop

the 3 bet on the turn is good; there are only 2 hearts that beat you. he caps the turn for sure with the A, and probably with the Q. I think this is a pretty easy river bet.
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