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Old 05-09-2005, 08:52 AM
otnemem otnemem is offline
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Default Ivey/Moneymaker WSOP 2003

This is from the NY Times' review of Moneymaker's new book.

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We get to meet poker's stars, if only briefly -- notably Chan, who fondles a lucky (and slightly rancid) orange at the table, and Ivey, a young player with a penchant for basketball jerseys and sulky behavior (he wouldn't shake Moneymaker's hand).

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I didn't take notice of this when it was on ESPN, but now that I think of it, you don't see them shake hands. Has anyone read the book,and does he go into any more detail about the situation? Or does anyone know anything else about this?
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Old 05-09-2005, 09:47 AM
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Default Re: Ivey/Moneymaker WSOP 2003

Post a link please.
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Old 05-09-2005, 12:12 PM
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Default Re: Ivey/Moneymaker WSOP 2003

I can't say for sure. But i think Phil was a gracious gentleman about the whole beat. He may or may not have shaked his hand. But if he didn't it might have been becasue phil was already walking away and didn't se the hand out. Phil I. by most accounts acts like a gentleman.
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Old 05-11-2005, 04:37 PM
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Default Re: Ivey/Moneymaker WSOP 2003

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Phil I. by most accounts acts like a gentleman.

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Even had you not specified, the context would have told us that you meant Phil I. and not Phil H.
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Old 05-12-2005, 01:41 AM
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Default Re: Ivey/Moneymaker WSOP 2003

wow, thanks for letting me know that.
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Old 05-09-2005, 12:23 PM
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Default Re: Ivey/Moneymaker WSOP 2003

I distinctly remember Ivey snubbing Moneymaker. In his defense it was an amazing and brutal hand.

From memory,
MM: AQ
Ivey: 99
Flop: QQx Ivey checks and MM slowplays with a check
Turn: 9 Ivey bets or CRs, either way they get the money in and MM lets out a groan.
River: A

Ivey is speechless and clearly walks right past an extended MM hand. It was bad form IMO despite the circumstances though I've never taken a beat like that with nearly as much $$ on the line.
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Old 05-09-2005, 12:41 PM
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Default Re: Ivey/Moneymaker WSOP 2003

actually moneymaker bet the flop and ivey called, then moneymaker bet again on the turn and ivey moved in.
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Old 05-09-2005, 05:00 PM
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Default Re: Ivey/Moneymaker WSOP 2003

yep, moneymaker bet very small at it. i believe less than half the pot.

ivey would have been top 4 in chips, and the favorite to win it.
it didn't appear to be a major snub.
that was also his second bad beat as he got allin after flopping a set earlier.
ivey should have ended up top 3 in that tourney.
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Old 05-09-2005, 01:17 PM
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You didn't see them shake hands when the hand went down because it got edited out... but at the end of the episode where they recap MM taking down all the big names you see Ivey shake his hand very breifly as he walks by when they replay the ending of the hand. I am almost 100% sure of this.
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Old 05-09-2005, 01:52 PM
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Default Re: Ivey/Moneymaker WSOP 2003

Then why does he say in the book that Ivey wouldn't shake his hand?
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