How are people this retarted?

[bones]

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Isnt this a clear push with any two, since (theoretically, the 2 medium stacks can't call anything but like AA and KK?

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They are not folding good hands. Never ever ever never.

Ha, yeah i guess youre right, is this still the right play?

edit: nevermind thanks dogs

[bones]

No, it's not the right play. The EV derived from this play is from your opponents folding all but the best hands. They aren't going to fold their good hands, so it becomes a losing play.

[tewall]

No. Figure out what their likely calling range is. If they understood the theory, they'd only call you with a couple of hands. But they don't, so you can't act on the basis of what would be a good play if they understood but on the basis of reality. What will they actually call with? Then figure out what's a good push based on that.

By why push at all? The reason for pushing rather than making a smaller raise is that better players will just come over the top of you, plus you'll lose fold equity. But these aren't better players. If you can rob the blinds with small raises, why risk so much? Save your big raises for when you have a real hand. Let them call your big raises when you're the favorite, and fold to small raises when you're not.