Turn semi-bluff

obsidian · #1 12-13-2005, 05:23 PM

Villain is a multitabling tag. PF and flop too loose?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 raises, 2 folds, CO calls, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (6.66 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets, CO folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.33 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero raises

jason_t · #2 12-13-2005, 05:31 PM

I fold preflop. Then I fold the flop. I suppose the semibluff is fine but the pot is a little small. Some TAGs are smart enough to read picked up flush draws.

obsidian · #3 12-13-2005, 05:35 PM

Sort of what I figured. Too much 6-max.

jason_t · #4 12-13-2005, 05:40 PM

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The flop peel is probably the worst decision imo. Can you explain your thoughts?

obsidian · #5 12-13-2005, 05:48 PM

Well unless villain has a pair already he missed this flop most the time. I have 2 overs and a b/d fluss draw which I can semi bluff if I hit. Not the best thinking as my outs, if I am not drawing to runner runner already, are obviously tainted.

jason_t · #6 12-13-2005, 05:55 PM

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Well unless villain has a pair already he missed this flop most the time. I have 2 overs and a b/d fluss draw which I can semi bluff if I hit. Not the best thinking as my outs, if I am not drawing to runner runner already, are obviously tainted.

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Yeah he likely missed the flop but he's almost surely ahead of you. You could be dominated and as such be facing reverse implied odds. Your preflop error is compounded when you make postflop errors.

#7 12-15-2005, 04:06 PM

fold this preflop, there isnt enough money in the pot to justify calling out of position with a dominated hand.
that being said, fold the flop too.

#8 12-16-2005, 06:19 AM

Seems we all agree here.

Fold preflop.

If you misclicked, then I dont absolutely hate the line you took. Always fun to give something else a try.

NLfool · #9 12-16-2005, 06:41 AM

geez everyone here is folding this in the BB? I may have to tighten up in the BB

danzasmack · #10 12-16-2005, 07:28 AM

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geez everyone here is folding this in the BB? I may have to tighten up in the BB

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I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that villain is a TAG playing many a table.