(gasp) $10k guaranteed - PF play? turn play?

[Peter Harris]

Pacific Poker; this means most tourney players are donks who walked in from a roulette table. Blinds 250/500, 2hr into $10k guaranteed $15+1.5; 3/4 of 615 field gone. Av stack 4800.

Questions: PF okay? Turn action? I know this is not the $600+40 we should be focusing on, but i'd like to hear comments. Villain is big stack, lucky gambles plus a big KK hand; tilts easily, has argued with "dumasses" constantly.


SB 1634
BB 20652
UTG 6562
UTG+1 4050
UTG+2 4087
MP1 5434
MP2 4498
MP3(hero)9225
CO 8737
Button 5576

Hero is MP3 with Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Preflop: SB posts 250, BB posts 500
5 folds, Hero raises to 1250, 3 folds, BB calls 750.

Flop: [4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] (pot 2750)
BB checks, Hero bets 1k, BB calls 1k.

Turn: [2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] [4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] (Pot 4750)
BB bets 2k, Hero ???

[Firefly]

I'm folding the turn.
I liked all the other streets.

[Peter Harris]

glad to see this thread stimulated discussion. 1 post is 1 more than i expected.

Well, thanks. I thought a turn fold was best. Instead i called the turn, figuring i'd make up implied odds if i hit my flush (i was 100% certain this guy would pay off).

River was J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], BB bet 1k, i raised to 2.5k (making my implieds 4.875-1), BB called. I suckout A2o goot.

Respect
Pete H.

[locutus2002]

Villain should bet out at the turn.

Even at 2K you are only getting good implied odds because villain's hand is so strong. A lone ace (villain's most likely holding) should fold to the 4 clubs enough to make it a bad call.

As far as calling other players donks...

We're all donks. Some more than most.

-Donkutus