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Old 06-12-2005, 05:02 PM
jonnyUCB jonnyUCB is offline
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Default Keeping the pot small OOP

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SB ($174.60)
Hero ($198.55)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $2.

Flop: ($9) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, Button calls $4.

Turn: ($17) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $8</font>, Hero calls $8.

River: ($33) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $35</font>, Hero calls $35.

Final Pot: $103


My turn and river play is what I'm concerned with. His preflop min-raise followed by his flatcall of the flop (after a second's pause) made me think he had aces, though a weaker king came into mind. Villian has not been that aggressive in past hands - do I fold this river or make a blocking bet? What's the best line for a hand with showdown value here?
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Old 06-12-2005, 06:17 PM
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Default Re: Keeping the pot small OOP

Unless you've seen him bet like that with air, I think a river fold is probably in order.
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Old 06-12-2005, 06:39 PM
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Default Re: Keeping the pot small OOP

So you like check/call small bet?
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Old 06-12-2005, 07:15 PM
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Default Re: Keeping the pot small OOP

I'll tell you what I really like which is lead out river for $10-$15 or so (if you are going to play the hand this way).
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Old 06-12-2005, 07:57 PM
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Default Re: Keeping the pot small OOP

You say you were keeping the pot size small, but what it actually seems that you are doing is letting your opponent decide how big the pot will be.
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Old 06-12-2005, 08:08 PM
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Default Re: Keeping the pot small OOP

fold preflop
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Old 06-12-2005, 09:34 PM
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Default Re: Keeping the pot small OOP

6h game. I play 5Ks here
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Old 06-12-2005, 10:00 PM
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Default Re: Keeping the pot small OOP

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fold preflop

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i take it u think this is 10 handed....

everyone loves folding preflop instead of being aggressive, or even without looking at the game...AA-22 AK, AKs, AQ, AQs. you will be blinded to death.
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Old 06-12-2005, 10:04 PM
Ghazban Ghazban is offline
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Default Re: Keeping the pot small OOP

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I'll tell you what I really like which is lead out river for $10-$15 or so (if you are going to play the hand this way).

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I think this is too small (1/3 pot for the bottom of your range) I'd like a river lead of ~$18 planning to fold to a raise.

As far as keeping pots small out of position, how often you checkraise other hands can affect that. If your opponents are afraid you'll checkraise them after leading the flop, they will be more likely to check behind when you want them to. If you frequently check/call or check/fold after leading, you will have a hard time keeping the pot manageable without leading yourself on every street.
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Old 06-12-2005, 10:17 PM
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Default Re: Keeping the pot small OOP

If you're going to play KJ here, and you think you're good - here's an easy way to avoid having to make a tough decision on the river like this - Be aggressive.

Lead the flop for at least $6.

If he calls - lead the turn for at least $15, here - anyone with half a brain is going to A.) fold or B.) raise you.

If they're raising your $15 on the turn - you can be fairly sure you're in trouble.

If they call - again - you can be fairly sure you're in trouble: check/fold or check/call a small river bet.
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