I'm finding the free card play very profitable at 5/10

garion888 · #1 05-11-2005, 07:35 PM

My first hand at the table so no reads...i don't know that the play changes at all with different opponents...does it?

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $5.
4 folds, MP2 calls, 1 fold, Hero (poster) checks, 2 folds, BB raises, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (6.40 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, BB raises, MP2 calls, Hero 3-bets, BB calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (7.70 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks.

River: (7.70 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, BB folds, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 9.70 BB

Bigdaddydvo · #2 05-11-2005, 07:37 PM

If you're behind on the turn, (and you probably are) I like it.

TStoneMBD · #3 05-11-2005, 07:41 PM

this isnt a good example of free card play, because your hand is so powerful on the flop that its worth raising for value.

free card play generally implies that you are giving up value by raising, but gain value by taking your free card which compensates for your loss.

however, i raise preflop. i also bet the turn.

oreogod · #4 05-11-2005, 07:42 PM

Is this a repeated instance or just this one time?

toss · #5 05-11-2005, 07:43 PM

You're either betting the turn because you have an edge or you're ahead. We don't have enough to et and I don't think we're ahead.

TStoneMBD · #6 05-11-2005, 07:44 PM

you have 2 players in the hand. you have a pair, gutshot and a flush draw. your equity in this hand is going to be greater than 33% far more often than not.

oreogod · #7 05-11-2005, 07:45 PM

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this isnt a good example of free card play, because your hand is so powerful on the flop that its worth raising for value.

free card play generally implies that you are giving up value by raising, but gain value by taking your free card which compensates for your loss.

however, i raise preflop. i also bet the turn.

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Now is this because u posted or do u generally do this with one open limper?

garion888 · #8 05-11-2005, 07:46 PM

I guess it hasn't been repeated a whole lot cause I only have 1K hands at 5/10 so far. And I also guess the free card play is profitable at every level. My title may not have been incredibly informative...

toss · #9 05-11-2005, 07:49 PM

Whoops didn't see the pair. My bad.

Entity · #10 05-11-2005, 07:53 PM

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this isnt a good example of free card play, because your hand is so powerful on the flop that its worth raising for value.

free card play generally implies that you are giving up value by raising, but gain value by taking your free card which compensates for your loss.

however, i raise preflop. i also bet the turn.

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I agree with everything you said, however, I'm less likely to bet the turn if I was 3-bet preflop and 3-bet on the flop. Given BB's weird checkraise here, I'm fine with 3-betting and betting the turn.

Rob