Fold or go for a squeeze?

AtticusFinch · #1 10-11-2005, 01:06 AM

UTG is looser than I am, but not a maniac.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t800 (9 handed) wacki's version of bison

UTG (t33460)
UTG+1 (t61390)
MP1 (t4217)
MP2 (t19641)
MP3 (t18586)
CO (t19361)
Hero (t24407)
SB (t10495)
BB (t61258)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9 h, 9 c.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t2400</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP3 calls t2400

Hero?

Lloyd · #2 10-11-2005, 01:11 AM

When you talk about a squeeze plan, as explained by Harrington, it has more to do with the aggressiveness of the initial raiser and the intelligence of the caller to pick up on the fact that the initial raiser is being aggressive, and therefore could have less than a premium hand. It doesn't have as much to do with your hand as your opponents.

My default here would be to call and play for set value. If my opponents fall into the categories above then I might consider pushing. But pushing is a pretty big overbet so with your stack I doubt that I would. If your stack was smaller than it's a great way of picking up the pot and you wouldn't be able to call for set value anyway.

AtticusFinch · #3 10-11-2005, 01:18 AM

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My default here would be to call and play for set value.

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Say you call and get an overpair. Line?

betgo · #4 10-11-2005, 01:20 AM

Call. An overbet push into the UTG raiser is too dangerous.

Lloyd · #5 10-11-2005, 01:29 AM

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JustPlayingSmart · #6 10-11-2005, 01:40 AM

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Say you call and get an overpair. Line?

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Since this is 3-handed, your opponent is going to play more straightforward. If he made a strong postflop bet and the middle player folded, I would strongly consider folding.

I think a lot of people would argue against it, but sometimes I call a bet on the flop and try to check it down. Very rarely would sometime fire a 2nd barrel with overcards after you call a flop bet. Obviously, that leaves you vulnerable to him hitting one of his overcards, but it also controls the pot size. If he does bet a 2nd time, I would most likely give him credit for the big pair and muck the turn.

adanthar · #7 10-11-2005, 08:06 AM

He's on the button, if he gets to lead out the hand is easy [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

I call and play for a set, too, but what happens on the flop has a lot to do with bet sizes. I'm not opposed to folding an overpair at all, it just depends on the situation.

A_PLUS · #8 10-11-2005, 10:13 AM

I would consider folding an OP to a > 75% pot bet and a call, or something similar. I dont feel good about playing a huge 3-way pot with 99.

I think I call a push from the original raiser, that is AK - AQ often enough for me.

I am more worried about MP's actions. EP will lead at a lot of flops, MP is much more likely to have a made hand if they lead or call, but a made hand does not mean better than 99 necessarily.

KramerTM · #9 10-11-2005, 11:20 AM

I fold here. An UTG raise is a little scary. The call for 15% of MP3's stack scares me even more though.

KramerTM · #10 10-11-2005, 11:22 AM

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I fold here. An UTG raise is a little scary. The call for 15% of MP3's stack scares me even more though.

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I changed my mind. Call since you are on the button.

My question is... how do you play when the flop comes 852 rainbow and you are bet into by UTG?