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Old 12-26-2005, 03:07 AM
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Default K/9o in CO, dead SB — steal?

Button is 44/10 but passive post-flop.
The player in the SB position just left, so there was none.
BB is 44/12 but more aggressive on later streets.

I consider my specific reads on both of them to be fairly strong.

I think I steal too many blinds. Is this a case where I should have backed off? Should the lack of a small blind influence my decision either way?

Advice on all streets, please.

Full Tilt .50/1 (8-handed, no SB)

Preflop: <font color="green">marchron</font> is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="green">marchron raises</font> . . .

Good move?

. . . <font color="#666666">BT folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="green">marchron . . .</font>

Now what? He clearly thinks I have nothing and is being his LAGgy self. I have TP2K and I doubt very much he has anything save maybe two overs. Do I let him know I hit this flop, or dare I continue to let him bet into me?


Edited to rearrange the thought patterns.
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Old 12-26-2005, 03:15 AM
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Default Re: K/9o in CO, dead SB — steal?

I probably push back right then, regardless of hitting the flop. If he is super agro he may keep pushing back with ace high or 76 or any part of the flop. I tend to keep raising him until he folds or turns over the nuts on blind steals.
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Old 12-26-2005, 03:15 AM
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Default Re: K/9o in CO, dead SB — steal?

Easy steal preflop. Raising here or calling and raising any turn is cool.
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Old 12-26-2005, 03:21 AM
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Default Re: K/9o in CO, dead SB — steal?

'Kay. But which is cooler?

And should I really stop-n-go ANY turn card? Even A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]?
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Old 12-26-2005, 03:26 AM
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Default Re: K/9o in CO, dead SB — steal?

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'Kay. But which is cooler?

And should I really stop-n-go ANY turn card? Even A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]?

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When you say he's passive postflop, does that mean he pays off? Will he get afraid of a turn raise and fold? If not, I'll raise any turn.

And yeah, even the A:clubs: because you can pretty safely fold to a 3-bet there if he is passive.
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Old 12-26-2005, 03:34 AM
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Default Re: K/9o in CO, dead SB — steal?

Button was the passive one, and he folded to the steal. (I only mentioned his stats because I didn't know he'd fold and wondered if stealing was wise given his profile.)

This villain is aggressive, but not overly so, and will back down if someone else gets in his face and he doesn't have the cards.
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Old 12-26-2005, 03:39 AM
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Default Re: K/9o in CO, dead SB — steal?

How can you stop n go? You are in position here.

Yeah as shant said sometimes pop the flop and sometimes raise the turn. It really doesn't matter much.
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Old 12-26-2005, 03:40 AM
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Default Re: K/9o in CO, dead SB — steal?

Ah OK, my bad. I'd just raise now because I'd like to get into a raising war with him. Since this is a steal situation, I'd be afraid to raise any turn because I wouldn't want to fold the turn to a 3-bet against an aggro player.
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Old 12-26-2005, 03:46 AM
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Default Re: K/9o in CO, dead SB — steal?

Hmm. Didn't know "stop-n-go" was position-dependent. Thought it meant anytime you smooth-call a hand you can raise with then raise on the next card. Noted.

I wish posters here would be more consistent with their slowplaying advice, though. Why doesn't it matter in this case? Are there clear-cut guidelines as to when I should wait or not?
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Old 12-26-2005, 03:50 AM
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Default Re: K/9o in CO, dead SB — steal?

Now shant's changing his tune. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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