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Old 12-18-2005, 04:26 PM
PantherZ PantherZ is offline
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Default 3/6 turn decision, fire again or take the free card?

The villian is 25/4/1.75 after 50 hands. On the turn, I'm not sure whether to check behind and take the free card, or go forward with the semi-bluff. I seem to be struggling with these decisions lately.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.33 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (3.17 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero ???
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Old 12-18-2005, 04:32 PM
Obliky Obliky is offline
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Default Re: 3/6 turn decision, fire again or take the free card?

In this situation i would take the free card..if you get check raised your probably gonna have to call due to your OESD and its unlikely your opponent will fold on this board.
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Old 12-19-2005, 01:55 AM
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Default Re: 3/6 turn decision, fire again or take the free card?

I like taking the free card here, I would hate to be chk raised. I think you would have an easy fold on the river UI if he bets into you.
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Old 12-19-2005, 01:57 AM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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Default Re: 3/6 turn decision, fire again or take the free card?

from his stats he seems to have some idea of the game, and against a range (even a somewhat loose range) that check calls this flop i do not see betting this turn as a good decision.
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Old 12-19-2005, 02:02 AM
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Default Re: 3/6 turn decision, fire again or take the free card?

I actually bet this because I think there is still a viable chance that I still have the best hand. the BB has just checked call every street and may fold his 77 or less hands
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Old 12-19-2005, 02:03 AM
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Default Re: 3/6 turn decision, fire again or take the free card?

Not necessarily an easy check behind, but I'd do it, hoping he leads the river after one of my cards comes.
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Old 12-19-2005, 02:24 AM
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Default Re: 3/6 turn decision, fire again or take the free card?

Even though the Hero is in a better position, the fact that the BB checked the turn, doesn't this give the Hero a free card also? Given that he has missed both A and J and his OESD hasn't been completed, we can get a free card to the river hoping for an A, J, or K, even 8, to complete (and then safety in calling down). I know we have a range to put the villain on, but assuming he's calling down on a low pair on the board, or even a PP, we can save a bet to the river. If the villain checks the river and we don't complete, we can check again to a free showdown, thus, saving 2 BB. If villain bets, we can fold putting him on a least a pair when we have nothing. If we complete the straight, and villain checks, we bet, therefore, making him make a decision. If villain bets the river, we raise, trapping him.
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Old 12-19-2005, 02:44 AM
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Default Re: 3/6 turn decision, fire again or take the free card?

I check here. He is not folding any hand that is beating you. He may also have a jack and if thats the case then he has only three outs to a win.
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