Flopped a boat out of position in multi-way pot

10+1 Deep Stacks

It's clear that BB likes his hand, and if I were heads up with him I'd be playing more aggressively, but with another player behind me, I thought it might be better to encourage him to draw. How's my line?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (9 handed) converter

MP3 (t12040)
CO (t25835)
Button (t45260)
SB (t17367)
BB (t19234)
UTG (t45775)
Hero (t35341)
MP1 (t17984)
MP2 (t28080)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls t400, Hero calls t400, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Button calls t400, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t2000) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets t800</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls t800, Button folds, SB calls t800.

Turn: (t4400) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets t1200</font>, Hero calls t1200, SB calls t1200.

River: (t8000) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets t3200</font>, Hero calls t3200, SB folds.

Final Pot: t14400

[TomHimself]

raise turn, you can probaly get it allin


but god atleast raise river

[JupiterUWG]

agreed, please raise turn

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agreed, please raise turn

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Or since you seem to still be greedy [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] and want the SB to come along, go ahead and call the turn, But just flat calling the river seems to be something that either the overly greedy [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] or the donkey do. Since you are definately not of the second group, i can only assume that your eyeballs were replaced by dollar signs mid-hand and you were hoping the SB would raise to try to steal....doesn't usually happen unless I'm the small blind, in which case i raise all-in and gladly hand you my chips.

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agreed, please raise turn

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OK, what are we trying to accomplish by raising the turn? Hoping BB will come over the top? Do we expect a call/push from the other guy, or should we just write him off and plan to maximize profit from BB? Why is this necessarily more profitable than keeping him in the hand and hoping he hits a draw? Or do you not think he's drawing?

[yoadrians]

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agreed, please raise turn

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OK, what are we trying to accomplish by raising the turn? Hoping BB will come over the top? Do we expect a call/push from the other guy, or should we just write him off and plan to maximize profit from BB? Why is this necessarily more profitable than keeping him in the hand and hoping he hits a draw? Or do you not think he's drawing?

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I don't mind a turn call. A river raise is a must here, though.

[BriPlay]

yea..i dont mind too much calling on turn..if BB has overpair, ace scares him..but you have to be thinking of raising the RIVER..

Brian

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raise turn, you can probaly get it allin


but god atleast raise river

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raise turn, you can probaly get it allin


but god atleast raise river

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OK, what are we trying to accomplish by raising the turn? Hoping BB will come over the top? Do we expect a call/push from the other guy, or should we just write him off and plan to maximize profit from BB? Why is this necessarily more profitable than keeping him in the hand and hoping he hits a draw? Or do you not think he's drawing?


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i should have just quoted just the "but god at least raise river" [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

i really like your line up until the river call. calling the turn is fine because it keeps the SB in. with the variety of draws on this board and lots of preflop limpers, and all those hands drawing dead, keeping both of them in makes sense.

but you need to raise that river 100% of the time. i'd say raise to 8k or so.