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Old 08-15-2005, 08:39 PM
GoCubsGo GoCubsGo is offline
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Default Does anyone not put their stack in with top 2 here?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) converter

SB ($55.50)
BB ($25.75)
UTG ($11.80)
UTG+1 ($20.25)
MP1 ($20.95)
MP2 ($49.90)
Hero ($29.50)
CO ($4.75)
Button ($24.15)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, UTG+1 calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB checks.

Flop: ($1.35) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $1</font>, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $10</font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls $7.

Turn: ($22.35) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $15.5 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $15.50.

River: ($53.35) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $53.35
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Old 08-16-2005, 01:04 AM
imported_anacardo imported_anacardo is offline
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Default Re: Does anyone not put their stack in with top 2 here?

Gross. Why not just reraise-push the flop?

And, if you're not going to push the flop, then how can you call such an awful turn card?
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Old 08-16-2005, 01:10 AM
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Default Re: Does anyone not put their stack in with top 2 here?

yeah...get it all in on flop...he could have a lot of draws.
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Old 08-16-2005, 11:56 AM
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Default Re: Does anyone not put their stack in with top 2 here?

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yeah...get it all in on flop...he could have a lot of draws

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A lot of draws? The board is Q J 7r. He could only have an open ended straight draw with 10 9 or K 10. The action certainly isn't going to go bet, raise, reraise with just a straight draw.

The ten on the turn isn't a bad card for you. If you were winning on the flop, you are still winning now. You are definitely commited to getting the money in after calling the flop. I think the best play is just to get it in there on the flop or fold. I can't get away from top two here.
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Old 08-16-2005, 02:00 PM
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Default Re: Does anyone not put their stack in with top 2 here?

i'd probably get it in on the flop, but you lost to 777 didn't you. Reasonably possible that BB had AK as well and didn't want to raise it from the blinds, but now has overs+gutshot and is betting it aggressively.
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Old 08-16-2005, 02:06 PM
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Default Re: Does anyone not put their stack in with top 2 here?

well played. pushing the flop would be dumb, IMO. you could lose AQ who is now committed to pushing the turn with a 3 outer. the guy could also have J7 or Q7 since he's in the BB. when he 3-bets, you're either well ahead or crushed by a set. calling the flop and letting him bet the turn widens the range of hands that will put their stacks in to a range that includes more hands that you're beating than if you had pushed on the flop.
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Old 08-16-2005, 02:10 PM
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Default Re: Does anyone not put their stack in with top 2 here?

second swolfe
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Old 08-16-2005, 02:18 PM
djoyce003 djoyce003 is offline
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Default Re: Does anyone not put their stack in with top 2 here?

I disagree wolfy, it's been bet, raised and reraised, he's calling a flop raise all in here i'd guess nearly 100% of the time...it's only 15 more to him. I don't want him bugging out if a scary turn card hits, i'd like to get my money in while i'm ahead. A worse two pair calls I think, as does an overpair, which is unlikely but possible....i'm calling any turn bet so if he has the set he's getting my money anyway...push it in I say.
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Old 08-16-2005, 02:43 PM
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Default Re: Does anyone not put their stack in with top 2 here?

I'm in the push the flop club, as well. Hopefully he had Q7 or something.

Ryan
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Old 08-16-2005, 03:26 PM
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Default Re: Does anyone not put their stack in with top 2 here?

Raise more on the flop. $3 was too light. If BB calls, UTG+1 is almost priced in if he is drawing to an OESD. Make a pot sized raise here. As played, I am leaning toward the push the flop line. I am willing to get it all in with this hand, so let's do it now when villian is most likely to come along.
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