Royal LHE on Ub

[TheMainEvent]

If you want to check out the numbers at TwoDimes, just add this string to the dead cards:

2h 2d 2s 2c 3h 3d 3s 3c 4h 4d 4s 4c 5h 5d 5s 5c 6h 6d 6s 6c 7h 7d 7s 7c 8h 8d 8s 8c 9h 9d 9s 9c

[stigmata]

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flushes are the hands you want to avoid.

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A flush will never lose in this game.

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Both correct, I think he meant that it's flush *draws* you want to avoid.

[callydrias]

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Am I the only one who finds this game really hard to play shorthanded?

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I prefer playing this game HU. Knowing where you are is much easier and it's more fun because you can play a lot more hands. Keep in mind that hands such as trips and straight increase in value (although I will still chuck a straight on the flop against an aggressive opponent).

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Straights are worthless.

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Straights are worthless multiway, but I think they can have marginal showdown value when you're playing HU if there hasn't been much agression earlier on. It's really dependent on what kind of hands your opponent will show down.

[Brian R]

The only flush you can make is a royal flush right? Don't avoid that. I was playing LL Royal HE for fun. Didn't realize until 45 hands into it that it was Royal HE. I was like, "OMG I have not been delt a not face card for like 4 orbits of the game" Needless to say I was rasing almost every hand and only about at break even for the 45 hands. Everyone must have thought I was a crazy.

Brian R

[TheMainEvent]

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Am I the only one who finds this game really hard to play shorthanded?

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I prefer playing this game HU. Knowing where you are is much easier and it's more fun because you can play a lot more hands. Keep in mind that hands such as trips and straight increase in value (although I will still chuck a straight on the flop against an aggressive opponent).

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Straights are worthless.

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Straights are worthless multiway, but I think they can have marginal showdown value when you're playing HU if there hasn't been much agression earlier on. It's really dependent on what kind of hands your opponent will show down.

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If you can rule your opponent off a set (because he always raises PF with big PPs) you're not in horrible shape with a flopped straight, but you're still going to end up being behind whatever it is that he has.

[timprov]

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I was playing LL Royal HE for fun. Didn't realize until 45 hands into it that it was Royal HE. I was like, "OMG I have not been delt a not face card for like 4 orbits of the game"

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I went to Canterbury this afternoon and was playing Plebian Holdem. It's not nearly as fun, especially when the rest of the table isn't.

[Ulysses]

Three pretty sweet hands I just played against a super aggro bad player. Especially badass checkraises highlighted:

Hand #9571111-17534 at Beaumont ($1/$2 Royal Hold'em)
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Started at 25/Nov/05 06:16:24

808st8 is at seat 0 with $71.
Neojack is at seat 2 with $50.
Nowonmai is at seat 3 with $114.75.
akshawnd is at seat 4 with $50086.75.
ManiMonster is at seat 5 with $115.25.
The button is at seat 3.

akshawnd posts the small blind of $.50.
ManiMonster posts the big blind of $1.
Neojack posts out of turn for $1.
808st8 posts out of turn for $1.

808st8: -- --
Neojack: -- --
Nowonmai: -- --
akshawnd: Ks As
ManiMonster: -- --

Pre-flop:

808st8 checks. Neojack checks. Nowonmai folds.
akshawnd raises to $2. ManiMonster re-raises to $3.
808st8 folds. Neojack folds. akshawnd re-raises to
$4. ManiMonster calls.

Flop (board: Kd Qd Jc):

akshawnd checks. ManiMonster bets $1. akshawnd
calls.

Turn (board: Kd Qd Jc Kh):

akshawnd checks. ManiMonster bets $2. akshawnd
raises to $4. ManiMonster calls.

River (board: Kd Qd Jc Kh Kc):

akshawnd checks. ManiMonster bets $2. akshawnd
raises to $4. ManiMonster calls.



Showdown:

akshawnd shows Ks As.
akshawnd has Ks As Kd Kh Kc: four kings.
ManiMonster mucks cards.
(ManiMonster has Ad Js.)


Hand #9571111-17534 Summary:

$1 is raked from a pot of $28.
akshawnd wins $27 with four kings.
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Hand #9571111-17538 at Beaumont ($1/$2 Royal Hold'em)
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Started at 25/Nov/05 06:19:02

4QNicole is at seat 2 with $50.
Nowonmai is at seat 3 with $126.25.
akshawnd is at seat 4 with $50100.25.
ManiMonster is at seat 5 with $94.50.
The button is at seat 3.

akshawnd posts the small blind of $.50.
ManiMonster posts the big blind of $1.
4QNicole posts out of turn for $1.

4QNicole: -- --
Nowonmai: -- --
akshawnd: Ac Kd
ManiMonster: -- --

Pre-flop:

4QNicole checks. Nowonmai folds. akshawnd raises to
$2. ManiMonster re-raises to $3. 4QNicole calls.
akshawnd calls.

Flop (board: Ks Ad Tc):

akshawnd checks. ManiMonster bets $1. 4QNicole
calls. akshawnd raises to $2. ManiMonster re-raises
to $3. 4QNicole calls. akshawnd re-raises to $4.
ManiMonster calls. 4QNicole calls.

Turn (board: Ks Ad Tc Jh):

akshawnd checks. ManiMonster bets $2. 4QNicole
calls. akshawnd raises to $4. ManiMonster re-raises
to $6. 4QNicole calls. akshawnd re-raises to $8.
ManiMonster calls. 4QNicole calls.

River (board: Ks Ad Tc Jh As):

akshawnd checks. ManiMonster bets $2. 4QNicole
calls. akshawnd raises to $4. ManiMonster calls.
4QNicole calls.



Showdown:

akshawnd shows Ac Kd.
akshawnd has Ac Kd Ks Ad As: full house, aces full of kings.
ManiMonster mucks cards.
(ManiMonster has Qs Qh.)
4QNicole mucks cards.
(4QNicole has Js Kh.)


Hand #9571111-17538 Summary:

$1 is raked from a pot of $57.
akshawnd wins $56 with full house, aces full of kings.
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Hand #9571111-17542 at Beaumont ($1/$2 Royal Hold'em)
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Started at 25/Nov/05 06:22:03

4QNicole is at seat 2 with $13.
Nowonmai is at seat 3 with $153.50.
akshawnd is at seat 4 with $50136.25.
ManiMonster is at seat 5 with $64.50.
The button is at seat 3.

akshawnd posts the small blind of $.50.
ManiMonster posts the big blind of $1.

4QNicole: -- --
Nowonmai: -- --
akshawnd: Qs Kc
ManiMonster: -- --

Pre-flop:

4QNicole calls. Nowonmai folds. akshawnd calls.
ManiMonster raises to $2. 4QNicole calls. akshawnd
calls.

Flop (board: Js Qh Kh):

akshawnd checks. ManiMonster bets $1. 4QNicole
calls. akshawnd calls.

Turn (board: Js Qh Kh Kd):

akshawnd checks. ManiMonster bets $2. 4QNicole
calls. akshawnd raises to $4. ManiMonster re-raises
to $6. 4QNicole folds. akshawnd re-raises to $8.
ManiMonster calls.

River (board: Js Qh Kh Kd Qd):

akshawnd bets $2. ManiMonster calls.



Showdown:

akshawnd shows Qs Kc.
akshawnd has Qs Kc Qh Kh Kd: full house, kings full of queens.
ManiMonster mucks cards.
(ManiMonster has As Th.)


Hand #9571111-17542 Summary:

$1 is raked from a pot of $31.
akshawnd wins $30 with full house, kings full of queens.
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Yes! Just locked up sweet $56 win.

[handsome]

The river c/r in Hand #1 was pretty bad IMO. Should've looked to bet/3-bet against a Q.

After some time playing this game and doing simulations on Poker Stove, I have further confirmed that a having a straight with no room for improvement really is a bad hand. BUT, it is a good back up hand if things don't work out after the river card depending if there was a raise pre flop or not and peoples table image to make a judgement. Also if you are late position and have A,K and it's capped, you may want to fold. There is a good chance your opponents have the same cards and thus the "donk" cold calling with his Q,10 might be good. Likewise if your early position with A,K you might want to limp. This will be decieving and you can see who does what before the flop. You can be more passive in this game than the regular one where protecting your hand is more important. It still amazes me even the people who do understand they are at a Royal table continue to think a straight is good and see the flop 100% unless raised, maybe. My flop % varies anywhere from 35-55.

One more thing, if you get 3 pair which will be after the turn, check/fold. You won't hit a boat 9 out of 10 times and if you miss you won't even have a straight.