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Old 09-13-2005, 01:07 AM
sthief09 sthief09 is offline
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Default Re: My very first $10/20 6-max hand

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youll get paid by AK on the river like every time. super easy value bet. unless you thought he would try to value bet AK and were going for a sexy?

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I was pretty sure villain had overcards (or I would have heard from him) but not necessarily AK. While he almost certainly calls with Ace high he does not necessarily do so with just K, Q or J high, although he might bluff with those hands. That was my rationale although I felt dirty checking and immediately PM'd a 2+2er via IM that I had missed an easy value bet.

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If he wants to bluff you raise you, GOOD. You are ahead on this river like 95% of the time after that action.

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100%

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Compromise at 97.5? occasionally people wait till the river with aces or kings. Would you be sure enough to 3bet if he raises?

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drunk

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Old 09-13-2005, 01:24 AM
NLSoldier NLSoldier is offline
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Default Re: My very first $10/20 6-max hand

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youll get paid by AK on the river like every time. super easy value bet. unless you thought he would try to value bet AK and were going for a sexy?

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I was pretty sure villain had overcards (or I would have heard from him) but not necessarily AK. While he almost certainly calls with Ace high he does not necessarily do so with just K, Q or J high, although he might bluff with those hands. That was my rationale although I felt dirty checking and immediately PM'd a 2+2er via IM that I had missed an easy value bet.

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If he wants to bluff you raise you, GOOD. You are ahead on this river like 95% of the time after that action.

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100%

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Compromise at 97.5? occasionally people wait till the river with aces or kings. Would you be sure enough to 3bet if he raises?

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drunk

[censored] YOU EAGLES


12164 what am i doing with my life

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its ok, i did some serious drunken theory posting last night [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 09-13-2005, 02:35 AM
ggbman ggbman is offline
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Default Re: My very first $10/20 6-max hand

I think this river is an easy VB and stheif's avatar is very cool [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 09-13-2005, 08:59 AM
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Inspired by bdk3clash I decided to take a shot tonight at $10/20. This is literally my first ever Party $10/20 6-max hand.

I did watch a few orbits so my only read is that button is slightly loose and aggressive but not a total LAG as far as I could tell.

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls, CO calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG folds, CO folds, Button calls.

Turn: (8.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

River: (10.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 10.25 BB

Thoughts?

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As soon as I checked I kicked myself for not betting. I agree with what everyone is saying here. Anyway, Button had K9s and, to nobody's surprise, MHIG.
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Old 09-13-2005, 09:44 AM
ctv1116 ctv1116 is offline
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Default Re: My very first $10/20 6-max hand

As others have said, bet. He definitely doesn't have a 3, and the way, he's played it, you are almost certainly good.
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Old 09-13-2005, 09:55 AM
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Default Re: My very first $10/20 6-max hand

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I fold this pf and bet the river every time (at 3/6). Is the pf call that straightforward?

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Thinking about his a bit more, I realized I'd probably cap TT every time. It doesn't seem like this is consistent at all. Help?

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Playing 5/10, I'd be inclined to fold this too, absent a good read. Is this an easier call at 10/20? Or is it an easy call - without a read - even at 5/10?
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Old 09-13-2005, 11:12 AM
Guy McSucker Guy McSucker is offline
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Playing 5/10, I'd be inclined to fold this too, absent a good read. Is this an easier call at 10/20? Or is it an easy call - without a read - even at 5/10?


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I think so. Most likely you're getting 5-1 preflop. Even if you just check-fold every time you don't flop an overpair or a set you will make a profit here.

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Old 09-13-2005, 11:20 AM
Wynton Wynton is offline
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Default Re: My very first $10/20 6-max hand

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Playing 5/10, I'd be inclined to fold this too, absent a good read. Is this an easier call at 10/20? Or is it an easy call - without a read - even at 5/10?


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I think so. Most likely you're getting 5-1 preflop. Even if you just check-fold every time you don't flop an overpair or a set you will make a profit here.

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So you think that, from the bb, it's worth calling 2 bets with any pair? I'm not challenging you, just want to be clear.

Also, don't we need to be concerned about the possibility that utg will cap?

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Old 09-13-2005, 11:26 AM
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Default Re: My very first $10/20 6-max hand

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I bet that river every day and checkraise on sunday.

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