River decision with TPTK

colgin · #1 09-13-2005, 12:36 AM

This is another hand from my first 10/20 shot, although a different table from my other hand post. This table is much more aggressive. BB in this hand is a maniac (or just tilting very badly) and has been losing a lot.

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero raises, 1 fold, CO 3-bets, 1 fold, SB caps, BB calls, Hero calls, CO calls.

Flop: (16 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets, BB raises, Hero 3-bets, CO calls, SB folds, BB caps, Hero calls, CO calls.

Turn: (14.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, CO calls, BB 3-bets, Hero calls, CO calls.

River: (23.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets, Hero calls, CO calls.

Final Pot: 26.50 BB

I felt just sick about not raising the river here. Comments?

ArturiusX · #2 09-13-2005, 12:39 AM

What else could BB do to you to prove he had a set?

Trix · #3 09-13-2005, 12:39 AM

I´d much rather cap the turn than I´ll raise the river.
You aren´t expecting CO to fold AK or better to a riverraise are you ?

Trix · #4 09-13-2005, 12:40 AM

Play better in his prior hands ?

colgin · #5 09-13-2005, 12:42 AM

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What else could BB do to you to prove he had a set?

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He was playing many hands this way and he was not showing down sets.

colgin · #6 09-13-2005, 09:07 AM

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This is another hand from my first 10/20 shot, although a different table from my other hand post. This table is much more aggressive. BB in this hand is a maniac (or just tilting very badly) and has been losing a lot.

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero raises, 1 fold, CO 3-bets, 1 fold, SB caps, BB calls, Hero calls, CO calls.

Flop: (16 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets, BB raises, Hero 3-bets, CO calls, SB folds, BB caps, Hero calls, CO calls.

Turn: (14.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, CO calls, BB 3-bets, Hero calls, CO calls.

River: (23.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets, Hero calls, CO calls.

Final Pot: 26.50 BB

I felt just sick about not raising the river here. Comments?

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BB had Q5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and CO has KJo and MHIG.

Against this very aggressive BB (maniac, tilting or both), who could have a very wide rannge of hands (as in like worse than he actually showed down here), I am still torn between going for the overcall as I did and raising. If I raise I will have to pay off a 3-bet when he has a better hand since I can't fold. However, I expect that he will often three-bet the river with a worse hand like the one he, in fact, held, which makes the prospect of facing such a three-bet not so bad (given that I feel I am very often ahead here).

Still not sure what is right. Any other thoughts are appreciated.