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Old 08-31-2005, 11:47 PM
obsidian obsidian is offline
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Default QQ hits set..when to stop?

UTG is 41/6.5/1.3 and I really haven't seen him get out of line. However I have seen him overplay his draws. MP is horrible 48/3/.7 and could have something as weak as bottom pair or a gutshot. Do I call or cap the turn?

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Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP caps</font>, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (16.40 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, UTG calls, MP calls.

Turn: (14.20 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, MP calls, Hero calls.

River: (23.20 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>
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Old 08-31-2005, 11:53 PM
jph0424 jph0424 is offline
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Default Re: QQ hits set..when to stop?

I think I cap the turn since MP is along for the ride and I think there is a pretty good chance I am ahead. Obviously I cap the river.
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Old 08-31-2005, 11:54 PM
Cancuk Cancuk is offline
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Default Re: QQ hits set..when to stop?

I doubt he's capping AJ or K10, especially since you said he hasn't gotten out of line. Cap turn and hope he's not holding AA.

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Old 09-01-2005, 12:38 AM
wackjob wackjob is offline
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Default Re: QQ hits set..when to stop?

Cap turn every time.
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Old 09-01-2005, 12:56 AM
BabyJesus BabyJesus is offline
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Default Re: QQ hits set..when to stop?

Good to keep raising the flop cuz you got MP who is just calling. Ace hits on turn you can still raise because you have MP still in the pot who is along for the ride. If he leads river after you cap turn and you don't hit case Q i would just call.
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Old 09-01-2005, 01:06 AM
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Default Re: QQ hits set..when to stop?

I play it the same way and then thank the poker gods on the river unless of course the guy does indeed have 4 aces.

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Old 09-01-2005, 01:11 AM
admiralfluff admiralfluff is offline
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Default Re: QQ hits set..when to stop?

Assuming your reads are solid:

A 41/6.5/1.3 will not 3 bet AQ or AJ. On the turn the only reasonable hands he could have would be AK,JJ, or AA. MP probably has KK, but may have AK, or some lower pp. It is almost inconceiveable that UTG has you beat on the turn, but you overtook him with the river Q. Just calling his turn bet is giving him credit for AA, so there would be no reason to raise the river. That beign said, you are ahead more than often enough to cap the turn, especially with MP along for the ride, and I would raise the river if bet into again, call a 3 bet.
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